Welfare support and drug testing

[skippa1]

The reason I am on the internet during the middle of the day is that I am the boss/ owner of a company, not because im unemployed.

ditto......

[oneofsix]

Umm, where did I do that? I would hardly complain about that seeing as its not the case.

This is about generalisations, not you personally.

[skippa1]

Why should either be tax payer funded?

exactly

[ducatilover]

nononono.
make them pay for the pot.
charge them for driving a bloody ford!

Can't argue there

Alcohol is the most dangerous drug out there. Why? It is one of the most damaging drugs, and the easy availability, legal status and low cost make a deadly combination. Maybe we should look at that first instead of trivial matters such as weed. We should also ban breeding of those who are on benefits, as many of them stay home all day and breed like rabbits which increases the demand on the welfare system far more than a few stoners sitting down all day seshing up. Once a kid is born to a beneficiary, it's often a financial burden on the government for the next 18 years (at least!).

Have to agree that alcohol is a dangerous one, incredibly so. I've seen some horrible things due to it, I would have to say all in all it creates more issues that pot (only from my observations, just my opinion thing)
Banning breeding is not a subject I like to approach though quite a touchy one, especially with all the "human rights" bullshit.
I've given the grog up recently and feel much better for it

One of those self employed people what spend all day on the web complaining in forums about how they work so hard and get so little?

Watch this space, I plan to be one soon

[mashman]

waaa waaaa waaaa I can't think of a better way to learn those bastards, they're spending the money they receive on things that they want but I don't want them to spend their money on the things they want, waaa waaaa ... I feel exactly the same way about the govt most of the time! So sure, let's punish everyone on the dole because of a small percentage who take the piss, yes, remove their freedom now, NONE of them have deserved it and therefore we should implement any number of costly schemes to cut them off from their only money supply and hope that they don't cause a fuss as they try to recooup their losses, after all it's their own fault for being unemployed...

orrrrrrrrr

legalise the stuff and have those growing it sell it to the govt and become tax paying citizens. Perhaps they'll expand their operation to veggies and other produce? Nooooo, sorry, WTF was I thinking, much better to keep them unemployed and lock them up when they get caught. Damn what an enlightened age we live in. I can here it now, but but but, but it'll be political suicide because as we've sold the people, and they have swallowed it (hook line and knee jerk), the image of a beneficiary being a drug takin' thievin' system sucking scumbag... how can we turn that around without losing votes.

[Oscar]

waaa waaaa waaaa I can't think of a better way to learn those bastards, they're spending the money they receive on things that they want but I don't want them to spend their money on the things they want, waaa waaaa ... I feel exactly the same way about the govt most of the time! So sure, let's punish everyone on the dole because of a small percentage who take the piss, yes, remove their freedom now, NONE of them have deserved it and therefore we should implement any number of costly schemes to cut them off from their only money supply and hope that they don't cause a fuss as they try to recooup their losses, after all it's their own fault for being unemployed...

orrrrrrrrr

legalise the stuff and have those growing it sell it to the govt and become tax paying citizens. Perhaps they'll expand their operation to veggies and other produce? Nooooo, sorry, WTF was I thinking, much better to keep them unemployed and lock them up when they get caught. Damn what an enlightened age we live in. I can here it now, but but but, but it'll be political suicide because as we've sold the people, and they have swallowed it (hook line and knee jerk), the image of a beneficiary being a drug takin' thievin' system sucking scumbag... how can we turn that around without losing votes.

Turn the entire population into mumbling mushbrained reefer smokers?
Trying to bring us all down to your level?

[Fast Eddie]

an unobjective, pointless retort from someone whose opinion apparently isn't worth putting words to.

haha, you can critique yourself so well, and so accurately. Keep it up

[imdying]

youve got too much time on your hands if youre mixing with stoned "creative and interesting people"

I mix with stoners who're creative and interesting, drinkers who match that description, and people who abstain who also match... makes no difference to me. But the bottom line is for me... if the portion of my tax that goes to pay beneficiaries was returned to my pocket, it would provide me so much less in the way of benefits to me that I'm more than happy to pay it.

I've also met people who don't pay tax, but don't collect a benefit either, who've had a similar affect on my life... I don't begrudge them because they occasionally use public facilities such as roads that they don't contribute to either. Why should I? Because your narrow mind says I should?? Because the government says I should??? Because Jesus tells me I should???? You're the ones missing out, and as sad as that is, that's your personal choice and whilst I don't agree with it, I'll fight for that too.

[skippa1]

waaa waaaa waaaa I can't think of a better way to learn those bastards, they're spending the money they receive on things that they want but I don't want them to spend their money on the things they want, waaa waaaa ... I feel exactly the same way about the govt most of the time! So sure, let's punish everyone on the dole because of a small percentage who take the piss, yes, remove their freedom now, NONE of them have deserved it and therefore we should implement any number of costly schemes to cut them off from their only money supply and hope that they don't cause a fuss as they try to recooup their losses, after all it's their own fault for being unemployed...

orrrrrrrrr

legalise the stuff and have those growing it sell it to the govt and become tax paying citizens. Perhaps they'll expand their operation to veggies and other produce? Nooooo, sorry, WTF was I thinking, much better to keep them unemployed and lock them up when they get caught. Damn what an enlightened age we live in. I can here it now, but but but, but it'll be political suicide because as we've sold the people, and they have swallowed it (hook line and knee jerk), the image of a beneficiary being a drug takin' thievin' system sucking scumbag... how can we turn that around without losing votes.

what a load of twaddle. Spoken like a true drug addled philosopher. They have no respect for those that help them, they could grow veges now and they dont, so you think that getting stoned is going to motivate them to garden? Fuuck off. My experience of stoners is that they cant even get motivated enough to get off the couch. And as for small percentage??? look at the unemployment stats and the number of drop kicks hanging around shopping malls. Legilisation will do nothing for those of us that work for a living and support these stoners except give more of them an excuse to do what they want at our expense. Harden the fuck up and stop encouraging them

[imdying]

Turn the entire population into mumbling mushbrained reefer smokers?
Trying to bring us all down to your level?

Down to? That you think that there are levels based on something as trivial as that is truly saddening.

[oneofsix]

Turn the entire population into mumbling mushbrained reefer smokers?
Trying to bring us all down to your level?

Looks like Mashman needs that sarcasm/irony emoticon.

[bogan]

Alright, bigger picture solution, unemployed are now applying for so many jobs it makes it hard for employers to do the initial screening. Past employment performance is also hard to access. How about creating a website to keep track of the 'bludgers' and their activities relating to trying to find work. Add other nefarious activities like failing or not taking drug tests, or having kids. And we could call it FaceBludger

[Fast Eddie]

My experience of stoners is that they cant even get motivated enough to get off the couch. Harden the fuck up and stop encouraging them

haha...

I succesfully moved from couch, to computer chair, back to couch.. then back to computer today.

so thank you very much, we can do it if we try.

[imdying]

They have no respect for those that help them, they could grow veges now and they dont, so you think that getting stoned is going to motivate them to garden? Fuuck off. My experience of stoners is that they cant even get motivated enough to get off the couch. And as for small percentage??? look at the unemployment stats and the number of drop kicks hanging around shopping malls. Legilisation will do nothing for those of us that work for a living and support these stoners except give more of them an excuse to do what they want at our expense.

Some of them do, some grow veges for all their friends families too. Some of them create art, and donate it to public spaces, some even auction their work for charity. Some have built some of the most sophisticated systems in their chosen fields that I've ever seen. You're confused about smoking weed and abusing weed... that and a bit narrow minded, but such is the many shades of life.

[ducatilover]

Alright, bigger picture solution, unemployed are now applying for so many jobs it makes it hard for employers to do the initial screening. Past employment performance is also hard to access. How about creating a website to keep track of the 'bludgers' and their activities relating to trying to find work. Add other nefarious activities like failing or not taking drug tests, or having kids. And we could call it FaceBludger

You wana bludgeon 'em?