Welfare support and drug testing

[Akzle]

So really the answer is to supply them with pot for free...?

nononono.
make them pay for the pot.
charge them for driving a bloody ford!

[SMOKEU]

Alcohol is the most dangerous drug out there. Why? It is one of the most damaging drugs, and the easy availability, legal status and low cost make a deadly combination. Maybe we should look at that first instead of trivial matters such as weed. We should also ban breeding of those who are on benefits, as many of them stay home all day and breed like rabbits which increases the demand on the welfare system far more than a few stoners sitting down all day seshing up. Once a kid is born to a beneficiary, it's often a financial burden on the government for the next 18 years (at least!).

[skippa1]

Alcohol is the most dangerous drug out there. Why? It is one of the most damaging drugs, and the easy availability, legal status and low cost make a deadly combination. Maybe we should look at that first instead of trivial matters such as weed

its not actually about what is or isnt the most dangerous substance its about those that get tax dollars to live and either spend their money on drugs or alchohol, or put themselves in a position where they cant get off a benefit because they cant pass a drug test. Why would YOU want YOUR tax dollar paying for them to do that?

[SMOKEU]

its not actually about what is or isnt the most dangerous substance its about those that get tax dollars to live and either spend their money on drugs or alchohol, or put themselves in a position where they cant get off a benefit because they cant pass a drug test. Why would YOU want YOUR tax dollar paying for them to do that?

I would much rather fund someone who sits at home all day smoking pot than someone who sits at home all day breeding. At least the pot smoker could be put into work and won't necessarily have unwanted offspring which the rest of us have to fund for at least the next 18 years. It costs a lot of money to raise kids, and if the mother stays at home all day to look after the kid, who pays for it? You do the math.

[jasonu]

Quite right too.

[Buyasta]

Quite right too.


http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10816842

Repost, original is here.

[skippa1]

I would much rather fund someone who sits at home all day smoking pot than someone who sits at home all day breeding. At least the pot smoker could be put into work and won't necessarily have unwanted offspring which the rest of us have to fund for at least the next 18 years. It costs a lot of money to raise kids, and if the mother stays at home all day to look after the kid, who pays for it? You do the math.

shit man keep with the game.....the thread is about drugs and alchohol not where they spread their seed, though you do have a valid point. I dont like them breeding anymore than I like them getting out of it. An old staff member had an accident at work and when drug tested he left before we got the result, he knew he was going to fail. He is on the dole now and was recently in the paper with his preganant missus and 4 kids complaining about the price of accomodation...
He could do with cutting his ball bag off for a start.
Maybe they are breeding because its nice to shag when youre stoned but because of the short term memory loss they forget to wear condoms?

[wharekura]

...Why should I have spent the last 30+ years working my arse off doing 17 hour days for long periods, sometimes 7 days a week for months when self employed and pay 34+% in tax so that they can live off my handouts?...

fken agree - you have my vote mate.

[oneofsix]

Does this guy get a reduced benefit?
http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/7205...drug-dismissal
the courts just gave him a hand out. Law not justice. The dismissal didn't follow the correct procedure regardless that he was risking his and others health and lives.

[sidecar bob]

I would much rather fund someone who sits at home all day smoking pot than someone who sits at home all day breeding. At least the pot smoker could be put into work and won't necessarily have unwanted offspring which the rest of us have to fund for at least the next 18 years. It costs a lot of money to raise kids, and if the mother stays at home all day to look after the kid, who pays for it? You do the math.

You are quick to point out who you "would much rather fund" but do you actually fund anything at all, or are you a dole bludger?
The reason I am on the internet during the middle of the day is that I am the boss/ owner of a company, not because im unemployed.

[oneofsix]

You are quick to point out who you "would much rather fund" but do you actually fund anything at all, or are you a dole bludger?
The reason I am on the internet during the middle of the day is that I am the boss/ owner of a company, not because im unemployed.

One of those self employed people what spend all day on the web complaining in forums about how they work so hard and get so little?

It were too good an opportunity to leave alone, this being KB and all

[imdying]

Why would YOU want YOUR tax dollar paying for them to do that?

Because some of those people are the most creative and interesting people I have ever met, and use their time to do things that would otherwise never have come about. Some of them have enriched my life in so many ways I've lost count, ways that I could never hope to replicate just by having another $25,000 PA in my bank account.

If we're beating up on beneficiaries, lets start with those tramps that can't keep their legs shut and have a brood larger than any working family I know.

[sidecar bob]

One of those self employed people what spend all day on the web complaining in forums about how they work so hard and get so little?

Umm, where did I do that? I would hardly complain about that seeing as its not the case.

[skippa1]

Because some of those people have the most creative and interesting people I have ever met, use their time to do things that would otherwise never have come about. Some of them have enriched my life in so many ways I've lost count, ways that I could never hope to replicate just by having another $25,000 PA in my bank account.

If we're beating up on beneficiaries, lets start with those tramps that can't keep their legs shut and have a brood larger than any working family I know.

youve got too much time on your hands if youre mixing with stoned "creative and interesting people"

[jasonu]

I would much rather fund someone who sits at home all day smoking pot than someone who sits at home all day breeding.
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Why should either be tax payer funded?