music has gone back to being all about gigs. A lot of bands these days accept that they won't make huge record sales, but if illegal downloads = tickets at the gate then it's a reasonable trade off.
ArseBiscuit
music has gone back to being all about gigs. A lot of bands these days accept that they won't make huge record sales, but if illegal downloads = tickets at the gate then it's a reasonable trade off.
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As mashman would say, maybe that is the answerOriginally Posted by scott411
It is all changing, better or worse it will always be easy to illegally download music, big music has to accept that and learn to work with it. Make it easier to get it legally would be the obvious choice I would have thought...
"A shark on whiskey is mighty risky, but a shark on beer is a beer engineer" - Tad Ghostal
Forum whore
A lot of up & coming musicians & movie makers are using the net to get noticed because it is such a struggle to break into the industry & many feel they do not want the restrictions that major producers impose on their creativity. They do want dollars & recognition, though. In many ways the net is a level playing field where talent & tenacity will get you noticed.
I think the value of artists is changing too, I would guess they make more money through endorsements, guest appearances & branding than they do from music sales. To a certain extent movies too, with accompanying advertising, product placement, tie ins, merchandise etc. The movies have the big screen & 3D, musicians have the ever growing live audience & ever more spectacular concert appeal. The net cannot steal this aspect of the business, it's theatre.
It's ironic that Hollywood is whingeing about downloading when every year a movie shatters the previous box office record, same with musicians, we regularly hear that so and so has just sold more records than anybody else.
Big media speak with fork tongue...
Royal Enfield user
Red hat, canical (sp) blender ,,in fact most linux application , are doing very nicely thanks ..I had to deal with the goal posts moving when I started out as a mechanic, the bike industry is now an entertainment /hobbiest market rather than family transport
from 1500 km first big services to 24 000 km..same happened when the spinning looms got faster .....
change the business model or .......
Apple has had a go , .....
Stephen
when a market forces free trade , but lock labour movement and is very protectionist ,,,Im losing sight of that free trade ideal
"Look, Madame, where we live, look how we live ... look at the life we have...The Republic has forgotten us."
SH1 rider
If you are a starting out artist type person not only will you give your work and all rights to it to big business for free but in fact you will be indebted to them. Any new stuff you produce will also belong to them. Their major industry is their lawyers. They also dictate what type of music or ideas will be published or played, not just by them but by anyone who wants to use their stuff, closed shop. Like a kindergarten put a picture of MM on their play room wall can and are sued.
Copyright protection hasn't changed with digital music and file share, remember cassettes. People have now been pissed off with being manipulated by sharks and are fighting back.
Regions on DVDs was a big driver, when people realised that the old PAL A vs NTSC vs Pal B etc no longer applied but the studios were still trying to dictate when you would be able to access the latest movie on DVD and that some would pay more their fair share. This all enforced by an artificial system. Then the music industry tried a similar thing but breaking the CD standard to do it although they lied and still called it a CD (and they talk copyright protect)
Nah Big business is still about starving the creative people, unless they are creative accountants, and feeding the sharks. They just don't like it that outsiders a grabbing a slice and also assisting their victims to escape.
KB's Chief Cats
torrents get around the "laws" because you're not sharing whole files, only small packets.
also, i beieve there was a legal cockup with the sale+purchase when piratebay bought their server building, they actually ended up with alloidal title to the land it was on, so they're not under the jurisdiction of america (although america thinks the planet is their jurisdiction) ie they are their own state, and can make their own laws, so not even LEGALLY obliged to not pirate things.
*canonical
red hat is now non-free business platform. blender is awesome. so too google sketchup.
open source is the best thing to happen to PCs.
marilyn manson? marilyn munroe? emu emu? myanmar? eminem?
whatumean?
Forum whore
Oh I don't know. It would make him look slimmer.
Forum whore
An example of the American "justice" system http://readersupportednews.org/news-...-lynne-stewart
it's not a bad thing till you throw a KLR into the mix.
those cheap ass bitches can do anything with ductape.
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SH1 rider
Thought the simple math MM + Copyright would have given it to you especially in relation to the good ole US of A. The reason the copyright coverage was extended so far past the creators death and the reason it is nicknamed the Micky Mouse law.
Aio ki te Aorangi
That's mashman™©1970 to you sunny jim... you're lucky the dotcom case is falling apart or you'd be nextAs mashman would say, maybe that is the answer
I didn't think!!! I experimented!!!
KB's Chief Cats
first of heard of it. ta.
Forum whore
found this, which is the basis of the Charges in teh States, it talks about why the US chased them and did not treat them like a storage facility only, interesting reading, I think if this ever gets to court, (which will take forever anyway) it will be a long boring trail, but interesting to watch from afar,
In practice, the "vast majority" of users do not have any significant long term private storage capability. Continued storage is dependent upon regular downloads of the file occurring.
Files not downloaded are rapidly removed in most cases, whereas popular downloaded files are retained. (items 7 – 8)
Because only a small proportion of users pay for storage, the business is dependent upon advertising. Adverts are primarily viewed when files are downloaded and the business model is therefore not based upon storage but upon maximising downloads. (items 7 – 8)
Persons indicted have "instructed individual users how to locate links to infringing content on the Mega Sites ... [and] ... have also shared with each other comments from Mega Site users demonstrating that they have used or are attempting to use the Mega Sites to get infringing copies of copyrighted content." (item 13)
Persons indicted, unlike the public, are not reliant upon links to stored files, but can search the internal database directly. It is claimed they have "searched the internal database for their associates and themselves so that they may directly access copyright-infringing content". (item 14)
A comprehensive takedown method is in use to identify child pornography, but not deployed to remove infringing content. (item 24)
Infringing users did not have their accounts terminated, and the defendants "made no significant effort to identify users who were using the Mega Sites or services to infringe copyrights, to prevent the uploading of infringing copies of copyrighted materials, or to identify infringing copies of copyrighted works" (item 55–56)
An incentivising program was adopted encouraging the upload of "popular" files in return for payments to successful uploaders. (item 69e et al.)
Defendants explicitly discussed evasion and infringement issues, including an attempt to copy and upload the entire content of YouTube. (items 69i-l. YouTube: items 69 i,j,l,s)
Wearing Hi-Viz Black.
I'm pondering another aspect. With the trendy "cloud" computing becoming more mainstream (some have been doing similar things for some time), perhaps there is an angle of "encouraging" people onto the big-few systems (apple, google, etc) by closing down Megaupload?
More big-business backroom deals?
When it all comes down to it, it is all about money and who is making it.
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Forum whore
Pretty much my take on it, although scott411's post shows me how much I don't know. I just don't trust em, though.
Hardcore Biker
Pah! The US legal system is easy to beat
Big Kim needs to get to get to the gym and get buffed.
Next step some surgery so he can fit in with the 'beautiful ones'
Take the time to achieve some great sporting record and win the adulation of the masses.
The lots o money to pay fancy lawyers and buy off politico's he already has.
The only thing he needs to concern himself with is having a totally random and unexpected accident on his way to chow on a big slice of justice
"I don't like it, and I'm sorry I ever had anything to do with it." -- Erwin Schrodinger talking about quantum mechanics.
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