New Bucket class idea?

[ajturbo]

clutching at straws for a bike to try and beat me eh???...

[Kickaha]

clutching at straws for a bike to try and beat me eh???...

He could beat you on a bicycle, so could most of us

[Buckets4Me]

why?.............

because they are legal and mx engines arn't

would have thought that was the sencible thing to do ?

then again this is buckets

[Sketchy_Racer]

I read this as

I cant be assed buying a piston and rod kit for my motor
instead I want to buy a shaged out old mx engine (in the hope that some little kid hasent run it around a paddock at full tit in first gear)

then i expect it to last and run reliably (because my comuter bike dosn't)
bla bla bla

just build a decent 125 aircooled engine (I have a gp125)
spend a bit of money on a new crank and piston (probably less than rebuilding an mx engine)

and get out there racing

the rules are fine and dont need fixing (we have more people racing than any other class)

and if you arn't willing to spend $2000 on a decent bike then dont complain about it braking down (how much is an rm80 or kx80 ?)

Never assume when you don't know buddy.

My MB100 motor is in much more need than a rod and a piston, If thats all it needed, it would have it. It's kind of like a lot of those old 80's two strokes.. It's fucked.

I already have a CR motor in great condition that I got for cheap. And I am focusing spending my time and money on my other other project but in the mean time I would like to keep racing buckets, So i'm going to bang the CR motor in.

Again, I have no interest in a old crapped out aircooled 125 that i have to fuck around with, I want to put a motor in my frame and race with the boys and if my bike isn't good enough to battle for a win on I have no interest in racing as it just pisses me off.

Either i'll do this, or i'll chuck a shit load of money at something that's "legal" and has twice the power of the CR and be that dickhead with the out of hand expensive bucket with a 125GP chassis with lightweight racing wheels, brand new tyres ohlins front and rear, electronic ignitions etc ... hmm yep the spirit of buckets.

Sorry for the cynical comment but it seems people sometime lose perspective of things.

[crazy man]

because they are legal and mx engines arn't

would have thought that was the sencible thing to do ?

then again this is buckets

l dont want to see it change at all people have put alot of work and money into there engines but there is not much diffients from a derby80 to a mx80 and there is a 1000 mx engine's to 1 derby engine out there maybe it may build more numbers l dont know

[Sketchy_Racer]

no way you would get 30hp out of a mx 85 when l dynoed shane kings 250 at 32 hp diffient type of power needed for mx but l dont mind the idea of mx80s running in buckets

Interesting, That number is from one of the "MX racers dads" so obviously talking out his ass. It will be interesting to see how the 80 compares to the other bikes once its running

[Buckets4Me]

Either i'll do this, or i'll chuck a shit load of money at something that's "legal" and has twice the power of the CR and be that dickhead with the out of hand expensive bucket with a 125GP chassis with lightweight racing wheels, brand new tyres ohlins front and rear, electronic ignitions etc ... hmm yep the spirit of buckets.

Sorry for the cynical comment but it seems people sometime lose perspective of things.

you'r not talking about me are you ?

havent spent a grat deal of money on my bike
and have raced it for 6+ years or so (makes it cheaper than the boat I have at home)

I cant ride so dont win very often but I do FINISH just about every race i start

nothings free and buckets is about as cheap as you get in a race class

[Drew]

I read this as

I cant be assed buying a piston and rod kit for my motor
instead I want to buy a shaged out old mx engine (in the hope that some little kid hasent run it around a paddock at full tit in first gear)

then i expect it to last and run reliably (because my comuter bike dosn't)
bla bla bla

just build a decent 125 aircooled engine (I have a gp125)
spend a bit of money on a new crank and piston (probably less than rebuilding an mx engine)

and get out there racing

the rules are fine and dont need fixing (we have more people racing than any other class)

and if you arn't willing to spend $2000 on a decent bike then dont complain about it braking down (how much is an rm80 or kx80 ?)

Did you read the post where he broke the cost of a motor down?

If it were legal everywhere, it is exactly the route I would have taken, no question.

[Buckets4Me]

Interesting, That number is from one of the "MX racers dads" so obviously talking out his ass. It will be interesting to see how the 80 compares to the other bikes once its running

you will need to ride the wheels off it

[gav]

Here Glen $1500 ONO
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-489422170.htm
Lil M, Miriam has her FXR150 for sale, she wants around $1300 ono ...

The way I see it, is only those skilled enough to build a fast legal bucket have the skills to build a fast 80cc MX based bucket.

[Kickaha]

hmm yep the spirit of buckets.

Can you show me what rule covers that?

[richban]

Yes the rules are working. But that does not mean new rules will not work. Imagine if we re wrote the rules focusing on Capacity only to get a possible 30hp. Get the right people to lay out the limits based on Motogp tech and go for it. 85 / 90 2s 155 4 valve's 210 2 valve's. Oh so simple. Yes you can buy fruity shit off the shelf. It don't make it the best option. To get to that max power the same people interested in getting the most will be doing the same thing they are now. I think that would make the class massive and a real stepping stone for young riders. The builders would still be happy. maybe more so. I would axe the GP chassis. Anyway Carry on.

[Drew]

nothings free and buckets is about as cheap as you get in a race class

Not if you wanna run at the front it isn't. Post classics is cheaper.

[Buckets4Me]

Did you read the post where he broke the cost of a motor down?

If it were legal everywhere, it is exactly the route I would have taken, no question.

na I didn't

quick rundown again as I'm to lazy to look

my last rebuild was a piston and NEW barrel (didn't cost me anything as I stole them from E.S.E spares)

[crazy man]

Interesting, That number is from one of the "MX racers dads" so obviously talking out his ass. It will be interesting to see how the 80 compares to the other bikes once its running

my mates father in 1990 said there kx125 put out 45 hp stock lol man talk l say but we all know its mosty up to the rider on how fast you are