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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew View Post
    $1500 wont get you anywhere near the front of the pack with the best buckets around.

    $2000 will get you a deregistered FZR1000, a set of emulators, and a service on the rear shock. Putting it somewhere near the front of the pre '89 racing that I've seen.

    Running cost is higher of course, but you see my point.
    Very true as far as it goes. There's been 2 appear down here and i remember one of them laying on the start finish straight at Levels...last we saw of him. Oyster's boys have one but don't have the budget to run it properly IMO.
    Those things hurt some of NZ's best ever riders when they were new and unless they're kept up to scratch they'll bite....particularly on the short SI circuits. Cheap as chips but a disaster waiting for the unwary.
    Dahn here there's a lot of fun to be had on smaller bikes - which are cheaper to maintain too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew View Post
    $1500 wont get you anywhere near the front of the pack with the best buckets around.

    $2000 will get you a deregistered FZR1000, a set of emulators, and a service on the rear shock. Putting it somewhere near the front of the pre '89 racing that I've seen.

    Running cost is higher of course, but you see my point.
    Ill bet the dereg FZR has great tyres (700) compaired to bucket slicks (100)

    I recently bought a 2005 CBR150 for 1200 a set of tyres was free but even if they were 100 that would be ok, needs an exhaust can make one for maybe $50 thats it for a season excluding petrol and oil , can do an oil change with Agip semi synthetic for $10

    could you just run through the numbers for the FZR again?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yow Ling View Post
    Ill bet the dereg FZR has great tyres (700) compaired to bucket slicks (100)

    I recently bought a 2005 CBR150 for 1200 a set of tyres was free but even if they were 100 that would be ok, needs an exhaust can make one for maybe $50 thats it for a season excluding petrol and oil , can do an oil change with Agip semi synthetic for $10

    could you just run through the numbers for the FZR again?
    Will the CBR run at the front of the pack?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew View Post
    Will the CBR run at the front of the pack?
    Should do soon, it has current NZ 125 champion riding it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yow Ling View Post
    Should do soon, it has current NZ 125 champion riding it
    More power to ya, sounds to me like the price is about the same to get the thing to the track then.

    Tyres for the FZR would be about $100-$200 for used superbike slicks/supersport tyres. And the supply is far more prolific than the half dozen or so entries in 125GP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew View Post
    $1500 wont get you anywhere near the front of the pack with the best buckets around.

    $2000 will get you a deregistered FZR1000, a set of emulators, and a service on the rear shock. Putting it somewhere near the front of the pre '89 racing that I've seen.
    Given that somewhere near the front is not exactly the pointy end, but ...

    $2000 for the bike
    $400 for gold emulators
    $300 for shock
    $600 for tyres
    $300 for chain and sprockets
    $150 for oil, plugs, filter, Etc.

    $3750 all up, it would be interesting to know if Nick Cains current GP winning FXR150 cost more to get onto the track.

    And you could certainly build a 30hp bike like mine for that sort of money (all the info is on the ESE thread) but you would have to invest more elbow grease for sure than just a tidy up of a running pre 89 FZR1000.

    And that might be the real difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew View Post
    Tyres for the FZR would be about $100-$200 for used superbike slicks/supersport tyres.
    The rim widths for a Posti FZR are ??? or would you have to fit wider rims to run superbike slicks and what would that conversion cost??

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    Quote Originally Posted by TZ350 View Post
    Given that somewhere near the front is not exactly the pointy end, but ...

    $2000 for the bike
    $400 for gold emulators
    $300 for shock
    $600 for tyres
    $300 for chain and sprockets
    $150 for oil, plugs, filter, Etc.

    $3750 all up, it would be interesting to know if Nick Cains current GP winning FXR150 cost more to get onto the track.

    And you could certainly build a 30hp bike like mine for that sort of money (all the info is on the ESE thread) but you would have to invest more elbow grease for sure than just a tidy up of a running FXR1000.

    And that might be the real difference.
    Actually Nicks CBR150 might not be the best example , it was bought new for about $7k for a junior one make series in aussie. They brought it back and raced it in buckets, was on the track today with his Dad riding it
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    Quote Originally Posted by TZ350 View Post
    The rim widths for a Posti FZR are ??? or would you have to fit wider rims to run superbike slicks and what would that conversion cost??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yow Ling View Post
    Actually Nicks CBR150 might not be the best example , it was bought new for about $7k for a junior one make series in aussie. They brought it back and raced it in buckets, was on the track today with his Dad riding it
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    Ohooo well I totaly screwed that up, looks like anything that runs at the front will have had a bit of money spent on it.

    I think maybe the fast pointy end buckets have had more development time put into them than the South Island Postie's might have, which might make Posties easier to get into, but dollar wise I dont think Buckets are more expensive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TZ350 View Post
    The rim widths for a Posti FZR are ??? or would you have to fit wider rims to run superbike slicks and what would that conversion cost??

    5.5 inch rear rim on the thou I think. No issue running 190 section hoops.

    I might be wrong in saying it can be done cheaper, but there's fuck all difference is there? And don't you think there should be?

    Do you think that the very entry level class of racing in this country, which is meant to be cheap and fun, should cost that much to build a fast enough bike to win what ever titles there are?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew View Post
    Do you think that the very entry level class of racing in this country, which is meant to be cheap and fun, should cost that much to build a fast enough bike to win what ever titles there are?
    Who said it's entry level? and that it's meant to be cheap and fun?
    How much is your FZR going to cost when you toss it down the track and going by your record that wouldn't take to long
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew View Post
    5.5 inch rear rim on the thou I think. No issue running 190 section hoops.
    http://www.bikez.com/motorcycles/yam...nesis_1988.php

    1988 FZR1000 Genisis Front 120/70 17 rear 160/60 18 road tyres so not the right sizes for slicks. Maybe there are other models with better rims sizes.

    Entry level racing that compairs more closly to South Island Posties is probably 150SS and 250SL's.

    Tuning wise Buckets has always been a little more serious. Its probably entry level racing for serious tuners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kickaha View Post
    Who said it's entry level? and that it's meant to be cheap and fun?
    How much is your FZR going to cost when you toss it down the track and going by your record that wouldn't take to long

    Lets assume someone with talent will be riding it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew View Post
    Lets assume someone with talent will be riding it.
    That just means that when it gets thrown down the track it will going faster doesn't it?
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