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    or i could go buy one of those new fandageld 4 bangers that replaced the rs125 if I wanted to empty the wallet [/QUOTE]


    Or fill the scrap bin, watched last nights round one rider on 7th motor one failed to start off grid and i thought they said 9th, so much for a cheaper class

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sketchy_Racer View Post

    Eg: When I started racing the FXR is was illegal due to the fact that it was over the current 140cc limit of the time. But they got popular and people accepted them so the rule book had to be updated. Even way back then Fishies GL145 was breaking the 140cc rule. Were we all just a bunch of reckless rule breakers? hardly. (Except Bayden and his 190cc suzuki )

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    Not sure if that is correct. IIRC, and I think I do, the original 4 stroke rule change was about 12 years ago and was from 125cc to 145cc specifically to allow the GL145 (ask me how I know). The rule was then quite correctly updated to allow 150cc because of the appearence of the FXR. These rules were changed in a very successful effort to save a floundering class. Allowing the 80cc mx engines will only help out a couple of people who may have one laying around in the shed.
    Besides that, even if you can find an 80mx engine chances are little Johnny has caned it from arsehole to breakfast with little or no regard to its health as it was daddy who had to fix it and it will require MAJOR surgery = lotsa cash to get running again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jasonu View Post
    Not sure if that is correct. IIRC, and I think I do, the original 4 stroke rule change was about 12 years ago and was from 125cc to 145cc specifically to allow the GL145 (ask me how I know). The rule was then quite correctly updated to allow 150cc because of the appearence of the FXR. These rules were changed in a very successful effort to save a floundering class. Allowing the 80cc mx engines will only help out a couple of people who may have one laying around in the shed.
    Besides that, even if you can find an 80mx engine chances are little Johnny has caned it from arsehole to breakfast with little or no regard to its health as it was daddy who had to fix it and it will require MAJOR surgery = lotsa cash to get running again.
    but how are they going to save an already overflowing class ????


    and as you say it's cheaper to put the engine backtogether and sell it to the next kid
    makeing some money to start that fxr build
    or if you are realy cleaver you know how much and easy it is to rebuild and hot up a 2 stroke and have started your own build on a leggal engine
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sketchy_Racer View Post
    I have no problem restricting it so that it is same speed as say hamish's bike in a straight line which is what I would call a moderately powered FXR150 (around 20ish HP I would guess??)
    To be realy fair to those who are playing by the rules, maybe you could restrict it to the slowest legal Bucket entered on the day, no one should feel cheated then.

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    Everyone buy a CRF150 motor standard carb,cdi and exhaust under 90DBA and so be it lets get down to the best rider on the day wins!!!

    O yea and those 2 smoke things you guys ride
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    Quote Originally Posted by fi5hy View Post
    Everyone buy a CRF150 motor standard carb,cdi and exhaust under 90DBA and so be it lets get down to the best rider on the day wins!!!
    Given a good bike a talented rider can win, but this class is about building then riding and if the "TALENT" the Sketchy talks about can't be arsed mucking about with engines then boohoo is my opinion. I built my bike within the rules and expect them to too.

    And as far as TF125's being relics from the past and all worn out, well tell me when did they stop making them. I think they are still sold new aren't they.

    And no one has explained why a TF cant make race winning high 20's hp, I bet TeeZee could, and he has posted everything on the ESE thread that you need to know, to be able to do it too.

    So get of your arse, stop being lazy and get on with it I recon.

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    Hey Fred, it was good to catch up with you last time I was in Chch. Boy you can drink some.

    Bet you're glad I stopped you making that post about TZ, I'm sure he'll apologise for what he said about you.


    Had a quick scan of TM for interests sake. $1000-1400 for an 80 in going but probably sad state. Remove engine & good luck selling anything else off the bike. Who would want RM80 chassis parts? I think its a non starter for many reasons, most of which have been covered.

    Last time I rode a CR80 around Kaitoke it was evil. Course the suspension bottomed out under my 80kg & knobbly tyres probably didn't help
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    Those of us without the wallet for machine shop time, are having a bitch that our bikes are too slow.

    This is kiwibiker after all, why people take it seriously I will never understand.

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    Who are you talking about? Sketchy for example virtually lives in a hi tech machine shop. He's being provocative & heck why not, but I don't personaly agree with the idea for the class. Maybe if we start to see numbers dropping for lack of bikes. Not the case atm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by F5 Dave View Post
    Who are you talking about? Sketchy for example virtually lives in a hi tech machine shop. He's being provocative & heck why not, but I don't personaly agree with the idea for the class. Maybe if we start to see numbers dropping for lack of bikes. Not the case atm.
    Also will any victory be hollow? Not that he will win any races.

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    Ahh, I hear he's a wobbly old man now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by F5 Dave View Post
    Hey Fred, it was good to catch up with you last time I was in Chch. Boy you can drink some. Bet you're glad I stopped you making that post about TZ, I'm sure he'll apologise for what he said about you.
    Yre great couple days, once I got used to it, I found when you placed your hand on my thigh, mildly exciting, we should catch up again soon.

    Quote Originally Posted by Drew View Post
    Those of us without the wallet for machine shop time, are having a bitch that our bikes are too slow. This is kiwibiker after all, why people take it seriously I will never understand.
    Taking it to seriously, please forgive me, cough, cough, just a bad case of coal, and a desire get to some recognition for the actual builders of competitive Buckets.

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    Well played, Touche
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    Quote Originally Posted by FastFred View Post
    Yre great couple days, once I got used to it, I found when you placed your hand on my thigh, mildly exciting, we should catch up again soon.



    Taking it to seriously, please forgive me, cough, cough, just a bad case of coal, and a desire get to some recognition for the actual builders of competitive Buckets.
    The engineering that has gone in to some of the bikes is simply astounding for sure. There's a lot of ugly pieces of shit too.

    My bike will fall into the later category until a machinist takes pity on me and does some funky things to my spare casings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew View Post
    The engineering that has gone in to some of the bikes is simply astounding for sure. There's a lot of ugly pieces of shit too.

    My bike will fall into the later category until a machinist takes pity on me and does some funky things to my spare casings.
    Starting out ugly, its traditional ....

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    Pretty much where we started out. I think the first time we putted around the track on a test day they still had bits of hay hanging off them.

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