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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    Just been chatting with a colleague over smoko and he mentioned this: The Shock Doctrine... scarey enough to read on Wiki let alone in paper back. He offered me the book but I turned him down, most likely from a keeping my sanity perspective, but more likely because I have no doubt that these tactics are used by those who you cannot deny.

    See also highlights: Shock therapy (economics)... I found the second paragraph particularly apt given the pace of change being rammed through by our dear glorious cunt head, sorry, leader.
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    I just opened the wifes credit card bill ...FK ME !

    Stephen
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian d'marge View Post
    Snip from wiki


    New Zealand's electrical energy generation, previously state-owned as in most countries, was corporatised, deregulated and partly sold off over the last two decades of the twentieth century, following a model typical in the Western world. However, much of the generation and retail sectors, as well as the entire transmission sector, remains under government ownership as state-owned enterprises.
    The reformist Fourth Labour Government corporatised the Electricity Division as a State Owned Enterprise in 1987, as the Electricity Corporation of New Zealand (ECNZ), which traded for a period as Electricorp. The Fourth National Government went further, reforming EPBs and MEDs to become commercial companies in charge of distribution and retailing.
    In 1994, ECNZ's transmission business was split off as Transpower. In 1996, ECNZ was split again, with a new generation business, Contact Energy, being formed. The Fourth National Government privatised Contact Energy in 1999. From 1 April 1999, the remainder of ECNZ was split again, with the major assets formed into three new SOEs (Mighty River Power, Genesis Power and Meridian Energy) and with the minor assets being sold off.[10] On the same date, local power companies were reformed to separate distribution and retailing, with the retail side of the business sold off, mainly to generation companies.

    Question still stands

    Stephen
    True and as you can easily deduct, Contact (including a few other miner players) was but a small portion of the total and never ever provided enough clout to promote real competition in the market, the government owned a dominant proportion of the market!

    The SOE's were almost ready for sale when Labour came back into office (1999) but they were back on the socialist trail again so simply gathered them all back into a "Claytons" monopoly and creamed the consumer with constant price hikes!

    There wasn't much "privatisation" going on, despite the industry being deregulated!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post

    Learning by propaganda textbook. Pathetic weak man.

    Fixed that for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian d'marge View Post
    I just opened the wifes credit card bill ...FK ME !

    Stephen
    Stop looking at it then ya bloody eeejit... it ain't gonna just magically go away now is it... and as we all know, ignorance is bliss

    Quote Originally Posted by BoristheBiter View Post
    Fixed that for you.
    Case in point ahhhhh I remember the days of snuggly it isn't happening blaaaaanket. Turns out thaaaaaat it never stopped haaaaaappening. Now where did I put that tin foil haaaaaat... oh yeah, I threw it out when I realised that groups of people with more money thaaaaaan they know what to with found a use for it and started crashing economies to prove a point... leaving us with this glorious society thaaaaaat we haaaaaave today.
    I didn't think!!! I experimented!!!

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    And America is putting Tariffs on its internet ,,,YEEEAHHHHHAAAAA

    Stephen
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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post

    Case in point ahhhhh I remember the days of snuggly it isn't happening blaaaaanket. Turns out thaaaaaat it never stopped haaaaaappening. Now where did I put that tin foil haaaaaat... oh yeah, I threw it out when I realised that groups of people with more money thaaaaaan they know what to with found a use for it and started crashing economies to prove a point... leaving us with this glorious society thaaaaaat we haaaaaave today.
    No, sounds like that tin foil hat is still firmly in place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoristheBiter View Post
    No, sounds like that tin foil hat is still firmly in place.
    heh heh... sure it is.

    "Permit me to issue and control the money of the nation and I care not who makes its laws." — Mayer Amsched Rothchild

    "If my sons did not want wars, there would be none." - Gutle Schnaper, Mayer Amschel Rothschild’s wife

    "Whoever controls the volume of money in our country is absolute master of all industry and commerce and when you realize that the entire system is very easily controlled, one way or another, by a few powerful men at the top, you will not have to be told how periods of inflation and depression originate." - President James A. Garfield

    and many many many more wise words from wise people back in the day when the "big players" knew exactly who each other were, give or take... but I'm sure it was an in joke 160 years ago

    In all honesty, I don't care who the fuck C is, but make no mistake that these cunts exist for themselves (with hoards of pathetic wannabes, ya know, capitalists ) and to their own ends... happily ruining the lives of billions with a single financial transaction. I'd kinda like to get out from under those coat tails to see what we're really capable of.
    I didn't think!!! I experimented!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    heh heh... sure it is.

    "Permit me to issue and control the money of the nation and I care not who makes its laws." — Mayer Amsched Rothchild

    "If my sons did not want wars, there would be none." - Gutle Schnaper, Mayer Amschel Rothschild’s wife

    "Whoever controls the volume of money in our country is absolute master of all industry and commerce and when you realize that the entire system is very easily controlled, one way or another, by a few powerful men at the top, you will not have to be told how periods of inflation and depression originate." - President James A. Garfield

    and many many many more wise words from wise people back in the day when the "big players" knew exactly who each other were, give or take... but I'm sure it was an in joke 160 years ago

    In all honesty, I don't care who the fuck C is, but make no mistake that these cunts exist for themselves (with hoards of pathetic wannabes, ya know, capitalists ) and to their own ends... happily ruining the lives of billions with a single financial transaction. I'd kinda like to get out from under those coat tails to see what we're really capable of.
    must spread the love , blah blah

    Self sufficiency or as near to damn it as you can get ;

    use the system and be aware ...time for me list again ..hang on

    Challenge the TINA ( there is no alternative ) syndrome .. ( again not I am not sure )
    * Promote informed debate and critique ..
    * Promote participatory democracy ..
    * Embrace the Treaty of Waitangi as a liberating force ..
    * Encourage progressive counter-nationalism ..
    * Develop multi-level strategies ..
    * Hold the line ..
    * Localise politics ..
    * Ginger up party politics ..
    * Invest in the future ..
    * Support those who speak out ..
    * Promote ethical investment ..
    * Think global, act local ..
    * Think local, act global ..

    Stephen

    Ps its friggen hot here ,
    "Look, Madame, where we live, look how we live ... look at the life we have...The Republic has forgotten us."

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    Are we talking at a country level here? If so I'd like to answer by applying the principles of NOW

    Quote Originally Posted by Brian d'marge View Post
    must spread the love , blah blah

    Self sufficiency or as near to damn it as you can get ; No problem, just balance the imports and exports. Done.

    use the system and be aware No problem, just balance the imports and exports so as not to cause a financial shock on the global financial economy. Done.

    ...time for me list again ..hang on

    Challenge the TINA ( there is no alternative ) syndrome .. ( again not I am not sure ) I'm doing it NOW, hee hee
    * Promote informed debate and critique .. Absolutely. RFID card each to log on to a website for voting/suggesting "policy"
    * Promote participatory democracy .. .. Absolutely. RFID card each to log on to a website for voting on policy
    * Embrace the Treaty of Waitangi as a liberating force .. .. Absolutely. Ditch the "white mans" constitution and laws as they'd be useless in a non financial economy
    * Encourage progressive counter-nationalism .. The treaty of Waitangi and associated principles should accomplish that
    * Develop multi-level strategies .. Absolutely. RFID card each to log on to a website for voting/suggesting "policy"
    * Hold the line .. The treaty of Waitangi and associated principles should accomplish that
    * Localise politics .. Absolutely. RFID card each to log on to a website for voting/suggesting local "policy"
    * Ginger up party politics .. Abolish party politics and use the democratic principle of voting/suggesting "policy" (party's would be counter intuitive/productive?
    * Invest in the future .. Free education, healthcare, a huge drop in crime, no poverty etc... Equity (maybe even stop this definitive age for school nonsense?)
    * Support those who speak out .. Absolutely. No point in discounting an "argument" if it's a good one
    * Promote ethical investment .. The treaty of Waitangi and associated principles should accomplish that
    * Think global, act local .. NOW you're just getting me wet (become the model for true (or as close to) civilisation)
    * Think local, act global .. I think I just had a big boys accident

    Stephen Gordon

    Ps its friggen hot here , It's fuckin miserable here
    I'm game

    aaaaaaaaand my apologies to those in the white universe.

    A simple idea in regards to food production. 1 or 2 people per street, more if they fancy, could create/plant/maintain everyone's vege patches.
    Last edited by mashman; 16th July 2012 at 18:37. Reason: added an idea
    I didn't think!!! I experimented!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    heh heh... sure it is.

    "Permit me to issue and control the money of the nation and I care not who makes its laws." — Mayer Amsched Rothchild

    "If my sons did not want wars, there would be none." - Gutle Schnaper, Mayer Amschel Rothschild’s wife

    "Whoever controls the volume of money in our country is absolute master of all industry and commerce and when you realize that the entire system is very easily controlled, one way or another, by a few powerful men at the top, you will not have to be told how periods of inflation and depression originate." - President James A. Garfield

    and many many many more wise words from wise people back in the day when the "big players" knew exactly who each other were, give or take... but I'm sure it was an in joke 160 years ago

    In all honesty, I don't care who the fuck C is, but make no mistake that these cunts exist for themselves (with hoards of pathetic wannabes, ya know, capitalists ) and to their own ends... happily ruining the lives of billions with a single financial transaction. I'd kinda like to get out from under those coat tails to see what we're really capable of.

    And who gives these people power? The ones that want to borrow.

    "I owe no one so no one has power over me" - Boris the biter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    I guess we'll see to what degree of public support of Goverment now holds ... after the next election.
    The reality is we need a right wing anti PC Government with balls, one that will also have no time for reverse racism

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoristheBiter View Post
    "I owe no one so no one has power over me" - Boris the biter.
    If only that was true ... if you don't owe a bean and have nothing else to your name, the truth is, that you can not afford to die!

    We have been checking this out a bit lately (for obvious reasons) and it's not a good look at all!

    We, the ordinary taxpayer, are getting screwed in every bloody direction!

    If you don't owe anyone a bean and you do have some assets, it just gets worse and starts to get accumulative! (like rates etc)

    Even the homeless people have a price on their heads and if they don't pay up at the time of their demise ... "we have to", through tax, rates and other god-damn levies that the "authorities" invent to force "us" to pay!

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldrider View Post
    If only that was true ... if you don't owe a bean and have nothing else to your name, the truth is, that you can not afford to die!

    We have been checking this out a bit lately (for obvious reasons) and it's not a good look at all!

    We, the ordinary taxpayer, are getting screwed in every bloody direction!

    If you don't owe anyone a bean and you do have some assets, it just gets worse and starts to get accumulative! (like rates etc)

    Even the homeless people have a price on their heads and if they don't pay up at the time of their demise ... "we have to", through tax, rates and other god-damn levies that the "authorities" invent to force "us" to pay!
    Yep, there are those that work for a living, and those that vote for a living.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Taylor View Post
    The reality is we need a right wing anti PC Government with balls, one that will also have no time for reverse racism
    you dont know what your talking about ...

    Stephen
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoristheBiter View Post
    And who gives these people power? The ones that want to borrow.

    "I owe no one so no one has power over me" - Boris the biter.
    dont force me to agree with you , next it will be green , , I haven’t talked to the wife , but next time I do Ill ask if Hell has indeed frozen over

    Stephen
    "Look, Madame, where we live, look how we live ... look at the life we have...The Republic has forgotten us."

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