Asset sale protests!

[mashman]

And who gives these people power? The ones that want to borrow.

"I owe no one so no one has power over me" - Boris the biter.

I agree... the alternative is to take whatever I want for a living. Some do that quite well... Tis a shame not everyone can borrow.

Do you own your house and the land it's on? Could anyone just take it away from you if they wanted to?

[Robert Taylor]

I agree... the alternative is to take whatever I want for a living. Some do that quite well... Tis a shame not everyone can borrow.

Do you own your house and the land it's on? Could anyone just take it away from you if they wanted to?

Yes I do, but some racist grouping wants to own the water table beneath it..........

[mashman]

Yes I do, but some racist grouping wants to own the water table beneath it..........

I thought you only had the rights to your land? Surely no one owns the land? I'd rather the water was "protected" than exploited for financial gain. That being the case, give it to the "racists", let the business fraternity pile some money into desalination.

[Robert Taylor]

you dont know what your talking about ...

Stephen

I beg to differ, Ive been around long enough to in my lifetime suffer too many left wing ''Governments'' but also a number of right of centre administrations that arent ballsy enough to do what really needs to be done.
Margaret Thatcher is living proof of an effective leader running a successful administration, we need more with her guts and determination.

[BoristheBiter]

dont force me to agree with you , next it will be green , , I haven’t talked to the wife , but next time I do Ill ask if Hell has indeed frozen over

Stephen

That's OK, I agreed with Quasievil yesterday so went and up'ed my meds.

I agree... the alternative is to take whatever I want for a living. Some do that quite well... Tis a shame not everyone can borrow.

Do you own your house and the land it's on? Could anyone just take it away from you if they wanted to?

The ones that borrow are the shame, that's what gives them the power.
Could they take it? They could try but I would take a few with me.

[BoristheBiter]

If only that was true ... if you don't owe a bean and have nothing else to your name, the truth is, that you can not afford to die!

If I'm dead I couldn't care less what they did with me.
If they go by my will it will be on a bonfire at the bottom of the garden.
If not someone else can pay for it.

[Berries]

Margaret Thatcher is living proof of an effective leader running a successful administration, we need more with her guts and determination.

Don't suppose I can interest you in a t-shirt then?

[mashman]

The ones that borrow are the shame, that's what gives them the power.
Could they take it? They could try but I would take a few with me.

You wouldn't be where you are today without borrowing. Not you personally, but undoubtedly somewhere in the chain of your meteoric rise borrowing was involved.
I'll wait til you're asleep and sneak in

[Brian d marge]

I beg to differ, Ive been around long enough to in my lifetime suffer too many left wing ''Governments'' but also a number of right of centre administrations that arent ballsy enough to do what really needs to be done.
Margaret Thatcher is living proof of an effective leader running a successful administration, we need more with her guts and determination.

Excuse me , you were a kiwi on the big OE , you weren’t born and have family , I was born and bred in west ham and that "woman" did a lot of damage; she was a good talker , and yes Britain needed a change , but that was just wrong

You are the same age as me , and again I say you don’t know what you are talking about ,

Stephen

ps , if you can name her favorite book , AND have read it , you might have had second thoughts about her ..( still a wonderfull speaker though)

[BoristheBiter]

You wouldn't be where you are today without borrowing. Not you personally, but undoubtedly somewhere in the chain of your meteoric rise borrowing was involved.
I'll wait til you're asleep and sneak in

Yes the government, for roads and hospitals, infrastructure etc.
Just make sure you feed the dogs on the way in or you wont get back out, well not in one piece.

Excuse me , you were a kiwi on the big OE , you weren’t born and have family , I was born and bred in west ham and that "woman" did a lot of damage; she was a good talker , and yes Britain needed a change , but that was just wrong

You are the same age as me , and again I say you don’t know what you are talking about ,

Stephen

ps , if you can name her favorite book , AND have read it , you might have had second thoughts about her ..( still a wonderfull speaker though)

The day of the Jackal, and what is the point you are trying to make, it's a good book.

No I wasn't around in the UK when Maggie was in but a lot of people I know were ( i have read her book) and apart from the mines and pole tax they have some good things to say.
Maybe it was because like now some hard decisions need to be made that not many people are going to like but needs to be done.

[FJRider]

The ones that borrow are the shame, that's what gives them the power.

Borrowing is not the problem ... it's the terms of pay-back is the killer ...

Those that believe they have a "Share" in the existing infrastructure and industry, because they paid taxes, also have a share in the debt/repayment of the finance that originally paid for it. Regardles if you agreed (or not) with it at the time. Or even alive (or not) at the time.

[Robert Taylor]

Excuse me , you were a kiwi on the big OE , you weren’t born and have family , I was born and bred in west ham and that "woman" did a lot of damage; she was a good talker , and yes Britain needed a change , but that was just wrong

You are the same age as me , and again I say you don’t know what you are talking about ,

Stephen

ps , if you can name her favorite book , AND have read it , you might have had second thoughts about her ..( still a wonderfull speaker though)

I lived and worked there in the 80s for 5 years and easily got a good job when there were 3 million unemployed on the backs of a defeated Labour Govt that had to go cap in hand to the IMF. Perhaps because unlike a lot of their population I was prepared to work I prospered. And I assimilated much moreso into British life than most Kiwis / Ockers on ''standard'' short OE. I was there long enough to form a very firm opinion of their issues and resolutely stick to that.
The biggest shame of all is that Britain mainly vilified the man they really needed, Enoch Powell.
Gordon Brown is far and away the biggest recent villian in contemporary British political history.

[BoristheBiter]

Borrowing is not the problem ... it's the terms of pay-back is the killer ...

Those that believe they have a "Share" in the existing infrastructure and industry, because they paid taxes, also have a share in the debt/repayment of the finance that originally paid for it. Regardles if you agreed (or not) with it at the time. Or even alive (or not) at the time.

But you don't borrow then there are no terms.

The comment to mash was just a throw away one as we could never keep tabs on what the previous generations have paid for, some with more than money, or what the future will need.
I guess it is why I get pissed when people say we should stop the super.

[Robert Taylor]

Borrowing is not the problem ... it's the terms of pay-back is the killer ...

Those that believe they have a "Share" in the existing infrastructure and industry, because they paid taxes, also have a share in the debt/repayment of the finance that originally paid for it. Regardles if you agreed (or not) with it at the time. Or even alive (or not) at the time.

Those are all very good points and in a wider context we are all complicit in the situation the world finds itself in.

[MisterD]

But you don't borrow then there are no terms.

The comment to mash was just a throw away one as we could never keep tabs on what the previous generations have paid for, some with more than money, or what the future will need.
I guess it is why I get pissed when people say we should stop the super.

It's amazing that people get pissed about that, but not about Governments and central banks systematically inflating the currency and devaluing everyone's savings...

I hope your savings are in tangible things like productive land and gold, otherwise you're as much under the thumb as the next bloke.