Sidecar Racing

[Kickaha]

Yes they would, there is talk that if a team doesn't assist they will not receive any points.

MNZ permitted meeting so I don't think they get that choice, I can't find the bit in the rulebook which says "If you don't man the gate or the BBQ or the T shirt stand you wont get points" I'd be picking less than 30% of competitors will do anything

Of course that may not affect you though.

You're a funny cunt, here have one of these

It doesn't have to be the actual competitor, it could be a hitch hiker you picked up, as long as your team organised that person.

We dont have spare people with us so if comes down to doing the race or work needs to be done on the bike we wont be able to do it or at least not at the allocated time

We wudda looked like gay chums, nobody wants that.

Speak for yourself

Imagine being allowed to spank your monkey in public......

Bob said you do that shit anyway?

[nodrog:Me]

MNZ permitted meeting so I don't think they get that choice, I can't find the bit in the rulebook which says "If you don't man the gate or the BBQ or the T shirt stand you wont get points" I'd be picking less than 30% of competitors will do anything
You're a funny cunt, here have one of these

We dont have spare people with us so if comes down to doing the race or work needs to be done on the bike we wont be able to do it or at least not at the allocated time

Speak for yourself

Bob said you do that shit anyway?

heres the deal, do it or don't do it I couldn't give a shit, but don't fucken whinge when you find out this is the last bsttc held here because now we have to pay people to man the gate and cook the BBQ.

Id be more worried about Alan hanging out with the sausages.

[Kickaha]

Id be more worried about Alan hanging out with the sausages.

Good point, I think I'll eat at the Motel

[sidecar bob]

Geez Warwick, I'm a bit surprised you think these things run themselves & are getting all rule booky about it. Have a think about it on your drive up & hopefully you will work out that all meetings that you Benefit from have a huge volunteer input. Maybe this is your chance to do an hours work to give a wee bit back.
It was run the same way last year, only Adam chose to refuse & everyone else did their bit.
It's not just sidecars, it's all classes that are helping out. As it is I suspect this will be the last bazza as a bunch of kiwis decided not to support the Aussie one earlier this year, preferring instead to run their national championship, it seems the Aussies picked up on the lack of support from our end & have returned the favour at this event with about one third entering this year compared to last year.
If you would rather stay home than do an hours work for the benefit of all, that is an option you should explore.
Here's a deal, I'm manning the barbecue, if you don't do your bit, don't ask me for a sausage.
Christ man, ask my mother in law to do your shift if you can't do it, just get off your arse & make something happen.

[Kickaha]

Geez Warwick, I'm a bit surprised you think these things run themselves & are getting all rule booky about it.

Not that fussed about the rulebook either way, not as though I expect to be up the pointy end and be worrying about points

Have a think about it on your drive up & hopefully you will work out that all meetings that you Benefit from have a huge volunteer input. Maybe this is your chance to do an hours work to give a wee bit back.

We'll be doing our hours work like we've been asked and if it conflicts with our racing maybe we can slot into something else, looking forward to hearing Goobers reaction to it though, I think that will be comedy gold

It's not just sidecars, it's all classes that are helping out. As it is I suspect this will be the last bazza as a bunch of kiwis decided not to support the Aussie one earlier this year, preferring instead to run their national championship, it seems the Aussies picked up on the lack of support from our end & have returned the favour at this event with about one third entering this year compared to last year.

I realise it can't always be helped but he scheduling of the Oz meeting is shit if you want to run Nationals, I'd love to go and do it but we wont ever consider it if it means not supporting meeetings here

Here's a deal, I'm manning the barbecue, if you don't do your bit, don't ask me for a sausage.

Fuck all chance of me asking you for a sausage I'd be too scared of what I'd end up with and whether it's have Scurvys "special sauce" on it

[Grumph]

heres the deal, do it or don't do it I couldn't give a shit, but don't fucken whinge when you find out this is the last bsttc held here because now we have to pay people to man the gate and cook the BBQ.

Reading the comments here about this is quite interesting from the SI...If the BSTT isn't financial enough to pay people to man the gate or cook the BBQ there's definitely something very wrong there. Go to the Burt to see how it can and should be done.

Oh and points for what ? I'd hope not the NZ national sidecar title...

[nodrog:Me]

Reading the comments here about this is quite interesting from the SI...If the BSTT isn't financial enough to pay people to man the gate or cook the BBQ there's definitely something very wrong there. Go to the Burt to see how it can and should be done.

Oh and points for what ? I'd hope not the NZ national sidecar title...

Theres about 936 marshalls that need to be payed for.

plus Robert Cockrane.

its all about giving back and helping run an event that is in reality quite bloody cheap to enter.

the points are what you get for placing in a race, its how they determine who to give the best in show rosette to.

[Kickaha]

Theres about 936 marshalls that need to be payed for.

Are you sure you counted that right? I think you might have missed a few

[nodrog:Me]

Are you sure you counted that right? I think you might have missed a few

You would think I'm exaggerating aye, but when they heard that you and your mates were coming up, MNZ stipulated 47 marshalls on each flag point, just incase they need to tip you fat cunts back on your wheels.

[jellywrestler]

Reading the comments here about this is quite interesting from the SI...If the BSTT isn't financial enough to pay people to man the gate or cook the BBQ there's definitely something very wrong there. Go to the Burt to see how it can and should be done.

Oh and points for what ? I'd hope not the NZ national sidecar title...

what does the burt pay for track hire over the events?

[sidecar bob]

Reading the comments here about this is quite interesting from the SI...If the BSTT isn't financial enough to pay people to man the gate or cook the BBQ there's definitely something very wrong there. Go to the Burt to see how it can and should be done.

Oh and points for what ? I'd hope not the NZ national sidecar title...

Motorbike racing is fast going out of fashion as a spectator sport. I had an ex WSBK winner at my dining room table a few weeks back, he rode in front of 350,000 plus spectators back in the day, these days we are lucky to have little more than our personal groupies watching, that's if we have any. That's where the money has gone.

[Drew]

It's an hour of our time, to repay everyone else's time given.

Bloody good idea I think.

[Grumph]

what does the burt pay for track hire over the events?

leading question there....yes, I'd say much, much less than HD charges. But on the other hand they have to attract spectators from much further away too. When you see how much Venture Southland does to assist promotion of the events of the week you realise that it's done to generate income for the area - and it does.
Oh, and remember that the land Teretonga stands on is owned by the Southland Sports car club...who had the foresight to get in and secure it for the future when they could. Wyndham as a street circuit is costly to set up but the locals realise the benefits to the local economy. I'm told that more than one local township would be keen to step in if Wyndham ever drops out....
Paid marshalls ? Yep, we pay them here too. Petrol vouchers, lunches, often more. If HD management (track not club) have a pool of paid marshalls, do they insist on the club using them ?

Bob - yep, spectators are hard to attract these days, maybe harder in Auckland than elsewhere....what does that tell you about the location of the meeting ?

[nodrog:Me]

It's an hour of our time, ......

its 2 hours bro, I thought you were the smart one.

[Billy]

As it is I suspect this will be the last bazza as a bunch of kiwis decided not to support the Aussie one earlier this year, preferring instead to run their national championship,

If I can just clarify that for you, It was the board at MNZ who refused to allow the sidecars to run part of their championship with the Suzuki series, Ensuring there were full grids for all rounds, Whilst allowing them to participate in Australia, How or why they thought that was better is beyond me, Their logic was just mindless and ruined a class at National level.