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    Quote Originally Posted by sidecar bob View Post
    I see Velos don't have owners, they have keepers For fucks sake
    Oh, and you rounded me up on the gravel two up on yours. What I was riding is irrelevant though.
    I OWN mine

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    Quote Originally Posted by swarfie View Post
    I OWN mine
    That one had keepers, that's how come the price, I never mistook you for a keeper though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew View Post
    No no, it's blindingly obvious how each of our fuck ups have happened.

    yip. tis to me, you were both born.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sidecar bob View Post
    I don't know what it felt like to you Warwick, apart from a trouser full of shit
    I didn't have time to shit my pants

    I would have said the back locked as well but when we checked afterwards there was a lot of front bias, last time we set it was at HD so I am fucked if I know how it could have changed so much when we've only done one club day since and haven't fucked around with it
    "If you can make black marks on a straight from the time you turn out of a corner until the braking point of the next turn, then you have enough power."


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    Even BP would shy away from cleaning up a sidecar oil spill.
    Quote Originally Posted by Warren Zevon
    Send Lawyers, guns and money, the shit has hit the fan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kickaha View Post
    I didn't have time to shit my pants

    I would have said the back locked as well but when we checked afterwards there was a lot of front bias, last time we set it was at HD so I am fucked if I know how it could have changed so much when we've only done one club day since and haven't fucked around with it
    It may have lifted the back off the ground. We were getting that badly with pinky at Manfield after we put decent pads in it, sounded like a slipper clutch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kickaha View Post
    I would have said the back locked as well but when we checked afterwards there was a lot of front bias
    Too muchy front bias, back wheel lifty uppy and due to no loady loady, locky locky.....
    Is it still beastiality if ya fuck a frozen chicken??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kickaha View Post
    last time we set it was at HD so I am fucked if I know how it could have changed so much when we've only done one club day since and haven't fucked around with it
    That Chinese fella 'Sumcunt' must be playing around with you south islanders brake bias's....

    Alex's was way outta whack back in Taupo too........
    Is it still beastiality if ya fuck a frozen chicken??

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    Some not bad coverage of the BSTT on TV3, you could quite clearly see Sidecarbob giving us the finger as we passed them, good onboards as well and in the classic my current hero Nodrog got a mention
    "If you can make black marks on a straight from the time you turn out of a corner until the braking point of the next turn, then you have enough power."


    Quote Originally Posted by scracha View Post
    Even BP would shy away from cleaning up a sidecar oil spill.
    Quote Originally Posted by Warren Zevon
    Send Lawyers, guns and money, the shit has hit the fan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kickaha View Post
    Some not bad coverage of the BSTT on TV3, you could quite clearly see Sidecarbob giving us the finger as we passed them, good onboards as well and in the classic my current hero Nodrog got a mention
    Yes, very disappointed the commentator failed to notice that. My favourite was "Geordie" on the BMW.
    Tracey cam is not the Tracey cam I'm accustomed to though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sidecar bob View Post
    Yes, very disappointed the commentator failed to notice that. My favourite was "Geordie" on the BMW.
    Tracey cam is not the Tracey cam I'm accustomed to though.
    i actually thought that was a courteous wave...should have realised....

    traceycam pics or we draw our own conclusions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumph View Post
    i actually thought that was a courteous wave...should have realised....
    No, the wanker broke our fairing in the previous race.
    I marmited his door handles on the transit to teach him a lesson.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sidecar bob View Post
    No, the wanker broke our fairing in the previous race.
    I marmited his door handles on the transit to teach him a lesson.
    Yeah but it didn't get me and the pink highlighter was a bit of a clue
    "If you can make black marks on a straight from the time you turn out of a corner until the braking point of the next turn, then you have enough power."


    Quote Originally Posted by scracha View Post
    Even BP would shy away from cleaning up a sidecar oil spill.
    Quote Originally Posted by Warren Zevon
    Send Lawyers, guns and money, the shit has hit the fan

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    People have been asking for a copy of the proposed pre 82 rules, sorry it has taken so long for me to get back to you. Here they are. The main bones of it are not negotiable, however we are quite happy to write further clarification into things if required.
    This is a copy of the email that was distributed.



    Below is the proposed regs for Pre ’82 (Australian period 5) Sidecars, these will be presented to MNZ initially to include in the supplementary regulations, with a view to include them as rules. These rules have been formulated as close to the Australian specifications as possible, mainly so
    we can compete with them on a level playing field, & so if their sidecars come up for sale, we can buy & run them here with virtually no modification.
    Initially it is intended that Pre ’82 will run in the current F1 F2 modern class & it is likely that these outfits will be on a similar pace to the current F2 machines.
    Should numbers increase to a point where there is sufficient to run a Pre ‘82 class alone, the situation will be addressed at such time.
    The NZSRA Pre '82 championship will be run in the same races as the modern NZSRA points rounds.
    A trophy will be presented at the annual prizegiving to the Pre 82 champion, if only one
    outfit contests the championship in the first or subsequent years the trophy will still be awarded to that team.
    If anyone would like a hand hooking up with some Aussie teams with a view to purchasing an outfit, let me know, otherwise, get building!!
    Cheers, Steve Bryan.


    ROAD RACING – PRE 82 POST CLASSIC SIDECARS
    Introduction:
    Pre 82 which will consist of racing machines manufactured before December 31st 1982.
    (a) These rules are intended to ensure a high standard of authenticity and presentation of the representative periods.
    (b) All machines must comply with the safety and technical requirements as detailed under chapters 8 & 10 & 27 of the MNZ manual.
    (c) Pre 82 specifically excludes the following: Honda VF750F interceptor, Yamaha RZ (all models) Suzuki GSX 1135, GSXR all models GPZ 900 all models Yamaha FJ 1100, Ducati F1 all models Suzuki RG 250, 400, 500 Gamma road bikes.
    (d) Maximum engine capacity 1300cc.
    Eligibility
    The eligibility and dating of post classic sidecars shall be considered in terms of the major components. The group into which a post classic machine is classed will be determined by the age of the newest component.
    Front and rear sidecar brakes:
     Manufactured in the period
     Which replicate those manufactured in the period
     Hydraulic bias adjusters permitted
     Linking of brakes permitted
     Front and/or rear sidecar exit configuration
    Steering / Front forks:
     Leading or trailing forks with front wheel equally supported on both sides.
    Fuel
    Open refer to Rule 10.17.3
    Fuel induction must be by way of period style carburetor of slide or diaphragm except where fuel injection was fitted as standard (eg GPz 1100 Kawasaki).
    Except for period style EI, Lectron and Gardner Flat Slide carburetors, all carburetors are to be of square or round slide type only. All other flat side carburetors are specifically banned, unless fitted to the specific bike during the period. (Onus of proof is on competitor rider or entrant of the machine).
    Turbo and supercharging shall not be allowed.
    Replica Parts and Materials
    Replica parts, major or otherwise, may be used in any proportion, provided that they are true and faithful copies of the original components made to original dimensions from the materials originally specified. In the event of originally specified materials being unobtainable, then materials used must be near to those originally specified.
    Carbon Fibre and Kevlar components, major or not, are prohibited in pre 82.
    APE and MTC and similar big block after-market engine blocks are prohibited.
    Accurate replicas of period equipment that is still manufactured are permitted. Remember that the onus of proof for a period part is on the rider. Any doubt may result in a protest regarding eligibility.
    Fairing
    Fairing and streamlining must be of the type and style in keeping with the period of competition.
    Prohibited Uses – PRE 82 Road Racing Sidecar
     Liquid cooled 4-stroke motorcycle engines
     Rear engine sidecars
     Steerable sidecar wheels
     Monocoque construction
     Banking sidecars
     Electronic fuel injection
     Floating brake discs

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    Buggerit...the exact same mistake as the solo regs. Weber and Dellorto sidedrafts were used in period on both solo and sidecar motors. But they're not legal....
    The guy i know who wants to build an Imp will be pissed....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumph View Post
    Buggerit...the exact same mistake as the solo regs. Weber and Dellorto sidedrafts were used in period on both solo and sidecar motors. But they're not legal....
    The guy i know who wants to build an Imp will be pissed....
    That would come under the "further clarification" & I doubt there will be a problem. These rules were formulated from an amalgamation of the NZ pre 82 solo rules & the Aussie period 5 rules, which to be honest, are a tad vague.
    Seeing as weber & dellorto carbs along with Hilborn injection were freely available pre '82 there will be no issues with their use.
    The carb rules refer specifically to bike carbs.
    Any car component manufactured pre 82 are fine to use, for example the Mk1 Cortina discs Mo Hayley used are ok.
    The idea of putting these proposed rules out there before they are locked & loaded into MNZ rules is that they can be quickly tweaked without going through a convoluted process.
    Once we are all happy that the wording & content are correct, we can go to the next level.
    We also need to allow for Dyna style ignition systems & magneto's.
    These aren't my rules, they are our rules, I'm keen to hear from anyone that wants to provide some positive input.

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