Sidecar Racing

[Voltaire]

If you use a correctly engine numbered GPZ 1100 dfi engine then I guess you can use the dfi system it came with, otherwise not.
That was pulled directly from the NZ Pre 82 rules.
We could always just have no rules like pre 76 currently does.

No Rules...cool, Gordies BMW would be awesome with a blower.

[nodrog:Me]

No Rules...cool, Gordies BMW would be awesome with a blower.

Leaf or Goat?

[Voltaire]

Leaf or Goat?

Trials?

[Kickaha]

so if they are built to these rules it keeps it from being chequebook racing & keeps it simple, rather than throwing the door wide open to the wealthiest muppets.

That hasn't really worked that well with Pre82 solos

There will always be chequebook racers regardless of class

The idea behind leaving max tyre size at ten inch is to keep costs down believe it or not.
A brand new ten is only a few bucks more than a brand new smaller slick, however this was more aimed at the pre 82 guys catching the second hand ten inch F1 tyres as they get chucked by the modern guys. We all do that, so no point in essentially ruling against it.

13 or 14inch diameter? most of the modern F1 long bikes use 14 so if 14 was allowed it means a lot more old tyres coming through

[sidecar bob]

That hasn't really worked that well with Pre82 solos

No, it hasn't has it. My pre 82 bike would be the cheapest in the top ten by a huge margin & it broke the pre 89 lap record on Boxing Day by over 1.5 seconds.

[sidecar bob]

13 or 14inch diameter? most of the modern F1 long bikes use 14 so if 14 was allowed it means a lot more old tyres coming through

Aprox what year did LCR go to 14 inch? I was aware the really new stuff was 14.
What sort of performance advantage would a bike with 14's have over the same bike with 13's?

[wildman]

There seems to be a bit of negativity regarding the proposed rules and formation of a pre 82 sidecar class, why? Good on you Sidecar Bob for kicking it off. My mate and i brought an old sidecar from Des James [ a kitset one with lots of parts missing] We have a Kawasaki gpz500 engine for it and were planing to put it together and use it to do track days to learn on before we move up and race on the Agip bike . Now we would have a class to race this sidecar in too, all we would need to do is fit a pre 82 engine [probably a 500 two stroke] cool. Ours will be running by August

[sidecar bob]

There seems to be a bit of negativity regarding the proposed rules and formation of a pre 82 sidecar class, why? Good on you Sidecar Bob for kicking it off. My mate and i brought an old sidecar from Des James [ a kitset one with lots of parts missing] We have a Kawasaki gpz500 engine for it and were planing to put it together and use it to do track days to learn on before we move up and race on the Agip bike . Now we would have a class to race this sidecar in too, all we would need to do is fit a pre 82 engine [probably a 500 two stroke] cool. Ours will be running by August

Yeah, maybe you can tell me why. I wonder if putting it up for public discussion may be a mistake. Perhaps a "here's the fuckin rules like them or not" approach would be better, but you try to include everyone & try to do what's best for all. There's always nay Sayers.
I'll polish them up in the next few weeks with the help of the people at the two South Island rounds I am attending & they will be gospel by the end of Feb at the latest.
It's pretty simple really, just build shit with materials & equipment & in the style of the pre 82 period.
It beggars belief that it even needs to have rules.

[nodrog:Me]

There seems to be a bit of negativity regarding the proposed rules and formation of a pre 82 sidecar class, why? Good on you Sidecar Bob for kicking it off. My mate and i brought an old sidecar from Des James [ a kitset one with lots of parts missing] We have a Kawasaki gpz500 engine for it and were planing to put it together and use it to do track days to learn on before we move up and race on the Agip bike . Now we would have a class to race this sidecar in too, all we would need to do is fit a pre 82 engine [probably a 500 two stroke] cool. Ours will be running by August

august? what the swear word!

have you got the Agip bike yet?

[nodrog:Me]

.... "here's the fuckin rules like them or not" ......

That's why I'm not in charge of anything, the public relations part of my brain has foetal alcohol syndrome.

[ellipsis]

, but you try to include everyone & try to do what's best for all.
.

...impossible situation...that's why there's rules...

[Kickaha]

Aprox what year did LCR go to 14 inch? I was aware the really new stuff was 14.
What sort of performance advantage would a bike with 14's have over the same bike with 13's?

I'm not sure what year they changed, supposedly they give better traction

We have 14 inch on ours which is a 1991 and they are an older style of wheel but I think it was a bit later than that when they intoduced them

...impossible situation...that's why there's rules...

You must have some old shit in your shed we could knock one up out of

[ellipsis]

You must have some old shit in your shed we could knock one up out of

... 'old shit', that would be correct, if not an understatement...

[wildman]

august? what the swear word!

have you got the Agip bike yet?

Paying the Agip bike off, be bringing it back up to Auckland in july. If i'm crap on it maybe i'll hang it on my lounge wall

[swarfie]

Paying the Agip bike off, be bringing it back up to Auckland in july. If i'm crap on it maybe i'll hang it on my lounge wall

Jeez you'd have to reinforce the wall somewhat....it's bloody heavy