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    Quote Originally Posted by kiwi cowboy View Post
    Was it for the same reason that both motors blew or different reasons?.
    Pretty broad statement to say prep was missing if differing issues with both motors fella.

    Do NOT know- Am sure both motors were NOT built by the Kiwi boys- and nothing broad at all about my statement if 2 motors went bang man, that just does NOT happen, unless poor preperation, and 26 years of racing has taught me that
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moto-Dynamix View Post
    Do NOT know- Am sure both motors were NOT built by the Kiwi boys- and nothing broad at all about my statement if 2 motors went bang man, that just does NOT happen, unless poor preperation, and 26 years of racing has taught me that
    After 26 years of racing and how many crashes?. were all your crashes from poor prep?.

    Ok not a good comparison but do you know who built the motors?.

    1 in hundred chance of two different components put onto two different motors fail because of component failure that has nothing to do with putting together would NOT be the mechanics fault would it?.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kiwi cowboy View Post
    After 26 years of racing and how many crashes?. were all your crashes from poor prep?.

    Ok not a good comparison but do you know who built the motors?.

    1 in hundred chance of two different components put onto two different motors fail because of component failure that has nothing to do with putting together would NOT be the mechanics fault would it?.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sidecar bob View Post
    I'll bet you a mince pie & a bottle of coke that he wins at least one race.
    Latest odds for race 1 from bet365 via oddschecker


    Dave Molyneux 5/4
    John Holden 13/8
    Ben Birchall 9/2
    Tim Reeves 9/2
    Conrad Harrison 12
    Ian Bell 33
    Alan Founds 60
    Gary Knight 60
    Karl Bennett 66
    Gary Bryan 100
    Wayne Lockey 150
    Matt Dix 200
    Robert Handcock 250
    Roy Hanks 250
    Dwight Beare 300
    John Saunders 300
    Michael Grabmuller 300
    Estelle Leblond 500
    John Lowther 500
    Darren Hope 750
    Francois Leblond 750
    Gordon Shand 750
    Mike Cookson 750
    Peter Founds 1000
    Tony Thirkell 1000
    "If you can make black marks on a straight from the time you turn out of a corner until the braking point of the next turn, then you have enough power."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Moto-Dynamix View Post
    Do NOT know- Am sure both motors were NOT built by the Kiwi boys- and nothing broad at all about my statement if 2 motors went bang man, that just does NOT happen, unless poor preperation, and 26 years of racing has taught me that
    Trouble is, you're talking sidecars not solos. The chairs bring problems, particularly oiling problems, which are unique to them. Then also, what has been working satisfactorily on short circuits may not work well at the TT.
    I'd think you could go there as well prepped as you could imagine and still get caught out. For one thing, how do you duplicate the sheer length of time on full noise ? Fuel feed adequate ? With baffled sumps, is the oil drainback adequate ? Will it suck air and fuck a crank ?
    Pretty sure I didn't build those motors, quite pleased I'm not there actually.

    And just how old is Roy Hanks ? At what point did his odds get higher than his age ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumph View Post
    Trouble is, you're talking sidecars not solos. The chairs bring problems, particularly oiling problems, which are unique to them. Then also, what has been working satisfactorily on short circuits may not work well at the TT.
    I'd think you could go there as well prepped as you could imagine and still get caught out. For one thing, how do you duplicate the sheer length of time on full noise ? Fuel feed adequate ? With baffled sumps, is the oil drainback adequate ? Will it suck air and fuck a crank ?
    Pretty sure I didn't build those motors, quite pleased I'm not there actually.

    And just how old is Roy Hanks ? At what point did his odds get higher than his age ?


    I here ya Grumph, but just based on what you have said above perfectly your self, that is lack of preperation is it not? If you are going racing there, you go prepared for the extreme conditions that chairs and bikes are put under. How many other chairs blew 2 motors in such a short time? Yes it could be fueling, or electrics, or just bad workman ship with the motor, or even a m,ix of all the above, still comes down to lack of preperation does it not?

    But lets let this go for now eh and wish the boys luck and send them positive vibes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moto-Dynamix View Post
    How many other chairs blew 2 motors in such a short time?
    Could have none could have been 6, we're only really keeping track of the NZ teams so we wouldn't know, in other years I know some teams have fucked multiple motors
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    No Grumph, you didn't build those motors, they are safely in my garage, but I'm sure of two things, if you had they would still be running & I wouldn't attempt what they are unless you did build the engines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sidecar bob View Post
    No Grumph, you didn't build those motors, they are safely in my garage, but I'm sure of two things, if you had they would still be running & I wouldn't attempt what they are unless you did build the engines.
    No pressure then......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moto-Dynamix View Post
    I here ya Grumph, but just based on what you have said above perfectly your self, that is lack of preperation is it not? If you are going racing there, you go prepared for the extreme conditions that chairs and bikes are put under. How many other chairs blew 2 motors in such a short time? Yes it could be fueling, or electrics, or just bad workman ship with the motor, or even a m,ix of all the above, still comes down to lack of preperation does it not?

    But lets let this go for now eh and wish the boys luck and send them positive vibes.
    Disagree re lack of prep. Historically, the IOM is unique, still is. How do you test for those conditions ? Only on the IOM...
    I've been told heaps of stories - a couple even involving you - about a troubled practise and a rapid development process, leading to good finishes - wins even.
    Even the most experienced teams go there expecting to have to make changes during the meeting.

    Yep, good and safe racing for all please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumph View Post
    Disagree re lack of prep. Historically, the IOM is unique, still is. How do you test for those conditions ? Only on the IOM...
    I've been told heaps of stories - a couple even involving you - about a troubled practise and a rapid development process, leading to good finishes - wins even.
    Even the most experienced teams go there expecting to have to make changes during the meeting.

    Yep, good and safe racing for all please.



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    Quote Originally Posted by nodrog View Post
    Darren is only competing in the 20m hotdog and chips dash.
    Bacon butte stuff and musical engine shuffle is the racing going on here

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumph View Post
    Disagree re lack of prep. Historically, the IOM is unique, still is. How do you test for those conditions ? Only on the IOM...
    I've been told heaps of stories - a couple even involving you - about a troubled practise and a rapid development process, leading to good finishes - wins even.
    Even the most experienced teams go there expecting to have to make changes during the meeting.

    Yep, good and safe racing for all please.
    I have seen a motor here that has chainsawed it's self in harf the conrod broke at the little end and then just chopped it's way through the motor looks amazing will try to get a photo

    AND the best thing it's out of a solo i guess his prep wasn't the best lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by old rig View Post
    I have seen a motor here that has chainsawed it's self in harf the conrod broke at the little end and then just chopped it's way through the motor looks amazing will try to get a photo


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    Quote Originally Posted by old rig View Post
    I have seen a motor here that has chainsawed it's self in harf the conrod broke at the little end and then just chopped it's way through the motor looks amazing will try to get a photo

    AND the best thing it's out of a solo i guess his prep wasn't the best lol

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    Hahahahaha.
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