I thought it was $50?Originally Posted by Drew
i'm motarded
I thought it was $50?
Mr. Responsible
Does it cost you $500 to protest? It's only $40 with SNZ.
Ta
Was $50 deposit, $500 if the protest wasn't upheld. Might have changed now. I can't remember a protest that was upheld where someone denied the offense.
i'm motarded
Low personal B.M.E.P.
If it's a protest relating to conduct or events on track, yeah, maybe. They can be hard to prove.
Technical, where hard evidence is visible, wrong rim width, oversize engine, no way would it be dismissed - at least down here....
I've participated in group stripdowns - no Gordy, and Tina, not that kind - where a whole field of "proddy" bikes were stripped. Most illuminating. It should happen more often.
Ta
It's been changed now so the protestor is responsible for cost of rebuild if a protest is not upheld.
How long ago was that Greg? The Bailey debacle couple years ago is what illustrated the futility of the rules in my mind.
Low personal B.M.E.P.
The rebuild costs were always an option to be ordered as part of the judgement. New rule just clarifies it.
It was many moons ago, yes, tail end of the original 250 prod class era. Some now famous names were caught that day....
I'd argue the the Baillie episode was not a debacle as the appeal committee upheld the rule book - as they should have.
Where things went pear shaped was trying to run a series off one person's interpretation of those rules. A piece of paper supplied to people wanting to run that class does not and can not over rule what's in the book already for that class. If the person concerned thought the rules were wrong, they should have put in a remit tidying it up before trying to run a National Championship on rules designed for club level...
So yeah, an MNZ fuckup on several levels.
My advice at the time,given publicly on here, was to fight it and race under appeal. Kevin McCleary always said, make the bastards prove their case - even if it's MNZ protesting.
Anorak
I remember reading about one year at the Aussie 6 hour
A few factory supported bikes were found to be 1mm over, which in itself was fine, but they were found to have also had the bores offset to alter the cam timing. (Clever aye)
After much discussion it was decided this was fine but only by a given amount as they were factory supported they had plenty of spares.
There was also much time spent making standard tanks larger by freezing them while filled with liquid etc.
The tighter the rules, I feel the more often people break them. Also when people think other are cheating and getting away with it. The more often other people consider cheating.
Kinky is using a feather. Perverted is using the whole chicken
In the riders seat
I wasn't even half joking, I have seen that happen numerous times in different classes
"If you can make black marks on a straight from the time you turn out of a corner until the braking point of the next turn, then you have enough power."
Low personal B.M.E.P.
The aussie 6 hour was an unusual event in that pre race there was a teardown of every entry - and it had to match the factory specs in the manual.
Try and get that done here. The head scrutineer who was a really tough bastard died a year or so back.
I was told that the very fragile XS750 Yamaha twins just scraped in with some last minute swapping back in of standard parts. None of the factory entries lasted but one private one did. The factory bought it back out of the finishers park to find out how...The riders were happily drinking the profits in the bar and were quite open about how it lasted - they never went over 6000rpm all race...
And just for those who may be budgeting a protest, don't waste you money protesting the Hayabusa.
Hardcore Biker
I like Richard Petty's quote 'It ain't cheating if ya don't get caught ' said by the man with a couple of engines in the Nascar museum of shame. If they catch you cheating they confiscate it end of story.
Forum whore
Bailey is a bridge often used by the army, was this at come enduro event or something?
Forum whore
not using the revs? bet they were drinking that low alcohol beer shit then...
Anorak
Not just Army transit NZ as well.
Where I live there is at least 10 of them, On State highways.
Side note Dave Bailey was epic.
Kinky is using a feather. Perverted is using the whole chicken
Forum whore
so that Bailey's Irish Cream shit, think Drewpys been overdosing with that maybe?
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