Sidecar Racing

**merv** · 12th December 2017, 18:15

Hey Drew, did I read that your outfit is ex Doug Chivas?

Would that be the one captured in these photos I took at the 2004 Wanganui races back in the day when we were enthusiastic KB posters. Roll down the page and page your way through the thread and you'll see a few sidecar pics including one with Doug short of his swinger.

https://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/s...-stories/page3

**Kickaha** · 12th December 2017, 18:33

Originally Posted by merv

Would that be the one captured in these photos I took at the 2004 Wanganui races back in the day when we were enthusiastic KB posters.

Yes, it's had a few owners since then, Jellywrestler might know but I was told it once held the lap record at Wangas?

**Drew** · 12th December 2017, 18:33

Originally Posted by merv

Hey Drew, did I read that your outfit is ex Doug Chivas?

Would that be the one captured in these photos I took at the 2004 Wanganui races back in the day when we were enthusiastic KB posters. Roll down the page and page your way through the thread and you'll see a few sidecar pics including one with Doug short of his swinger.

https://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/s...-stories/page3

The one and only mate.

**merv** · 12th December 2017, 18:52

Originally Posted by Drew

The one and only mate.

So can you get it back to lap record pace?

**merv** · 12th December 2017, 18:56

I laugh when I think about it too, those photos back in 2004 I posted using the old 56k dial up modem, just before I got ADSL, and maintained my patience when we knew no better.

**Drew** · 12th December 2017, 18:57

Originally Posted by merv

So can you get it back to lap record pace?

We'll find out in due course. Need to learn how to ride it first.

**merv** · 12th December 2017, 18:58

Originally Posted by Drew

We'll find out in due course. Need to learn how to ride it first.

Good on ya

**Drew** · 12th December 2017, 18:58

Originally Posted by merv

I laugh when I think about it too, those photos back in 2004 I posted using the old 56k dial up modem, just before I got ADSL, and maintained my patience when we knew no better.

Jimmy was on dial up back then too.

Must have taken days to do that shit.

**old slider** · 12th December 2017, 19:51

Originally Posted by jellywrestler

that's five times world formula one champion and twice formula two champion, think he knows what to do

Dont think anyone doubts his abilities, purely from a spectators perspective it looks like a great opportunity for playing dodgems, I would imagine cutting across or swerving in front of the competition like that is not the place to get a wee engine splutter.

**old slider** · 12th December 2017, 19:55

Originally Posted by Drew

Tim launches and the chair wheelies, so it turns left. But because it's a short bike he will always beat a long bike off the mark.

No rule saying we can't swerve.

Thanks for that Drew, certainly some great racing and thanks to all you crazies for entertaining us spectators.

**pete376403** · 12th December 2017, 20:56

Originally Posted by Grumph

Interestingly, Nev, I was told by a guy in the know here in ChCh that the really quick ones in classic car racing now use I believe a Pugeot block.
Apparently it's visually identical and the Imp bits swap in. The guy I spoke to was doing the required machining to take them out further than the Imps ever went - around 1300cc.
We used to have a guy here in ChCh who'd built and raced Imps in the UK and had a worldwide rep - and clients. He's moved to queensland but the guys who did his machining are still here.

Sorry about going off on a car tangent, but somewhere I have a Cars and Car Conversions mag from the 70s or 80s that features a Chrysler Comps works rally Imp of 1300cc. Stock block and stroker crank that necessitated external oil lines as no room inside the crankcase. So its been done before. Also the last Sunbeam Talbots were 998cc. They would have been the straight edge block (the original block was scalloped to follow the profile of the head, around the cylinders.

**Grumph** · 13th December 2017, 05:41

Originally Posted by pete376403

Sorry about going off on a car tangent, but somewhere I have a Cars and Car Conversions mag from the 70s or 80s that features a Chrysler Comps works rally Imp of 1300cc. Stock block and stroker crank that necessitated external oil lines as no room inside the crankcase. So its been done before. Also the last Sunbeam Talbots were 998cc. They would have been the straight edge block (the original block was scalloped to follow the profile of the head, around the cylinders.

All true - but the engines using the Pugeot block START at 1300.....There are stories here of some around 1500 built in ChCh before he moved.

Could be the post classic version of a certain Hayabusa.....( just kidding )