Sidecar Racing

[Drew]

...my mullet just entered it's seventh decade, somewhat faded and thinner...

Thinner?

I thought you'd been on chemo between the last two times I saw ya.

[Triplenut]

People have been asking for a copy of the proposed pre 82 rules, sorry it has taken so long for me to get back to you. Here they are. The main bones of it are not negotiable, however we are quite happy to write further clarification into things if required.
This is a copy of the email that was distributed.



Below is the proposed regs for Pre ’82 (Australian period 5) Sidecars, these will be presented to MNZ initially to include in the supplementary regulations, with a view to include them as rules. These rules have been formulated as close to the Australian specifications as possible, mainly so
we can compete with them on a level playing field, & so if their sidecars come up for sale, we can buy & run them here with virtually no modification.
Initially it is intended that Pre ’82 will run in the current F1 F2 modern class & it is likely that these outfits will be on a similar pace to the current F2 machines.
Should numbers increase to a point where there is sufficient to run a Pre ‘82 class alone, the situation will be addressed at such time.
The NZSRA Pre '82 championship will be run in the same races as the modern NZSRA points rounds.
A trophy will be presented at the annual prizegiving to the Pre 82 champion, if only one
outfit contests the championship in the first or subsequent years the trophy will still be awarded to that team.
If anyone would like a hand hooking up with some Aussie teams with a view to purchasing an outfit, let me know, otherwise, get building!!
Cheers, Steve Bryan.


ROAD RACING – PRE 82 POST CLASSIC SIDECARS
Introduction:
Pre 82 which will consist of racing machines manufactured before December 31st 1982.
(a) These rules are intended to ensure a high standard of authenticity and presentation of the representative periods.
(b) All machines must comply with the safety and technical requirements as detailed under chapters 8 & 10 & 27 of the MNZ manual.
(c) Pre 82 specifically excludes the following: Honda VF750F interceptor, Yamaha RZ (all models) Suzuki GSX 1135, GSXR all models GPZ 900 all models Yamaha FJ 1100, Ducati F1 all models Suzuki RG 250, 400, 500 Gamma road bikes.
(d) Maximum engine capacity 1300cc.
Eligibility
The eligibility and dating of post classic sidecars shall be considered in terms of the major components. The group into which a post classic machine is classed will be determined by the age of the newest component.
Front and rear sidecar brakes:
 Manufactured in the period
 Which replicate those manufactured in the period
 Hydraulic bias adjusters permitted
 Linking of brakes permitted
 Front and/or rear sidecar exit configuration
Steering / Front forks:
 Leading or trailing forks with front wheel equally supported on both sides.
Fuel
Open refer to Rule 10.17.3
Fuel induction must be by way of period style carburetor of slide or diaphragm except where fuel injection was fitted as standard (eg GPz 1100 Kawasaki).
Except for period style EI, Lectron and Gardner Flat Slide carburetors, all carburetors are to be of square or round slide type only. All other flat side carburetors are specifically banned, unless fitted to the specific bike during the period. (Onus of proof is on competitor rider or entrant of the machine).
Turbo and supercharging shall not be allowed.
Replica Parts and Materials
Replica parts, major or otherwise, may be used in any proportion, provided that they are true and faithful copies of the original components made to original dimensions from the materials originally specified. In the event of originally specified materials being unobtainable, then materials used must be near to those originally specified.
Carbon Fibre and Kevlar components, major or not, are prohibited in pre 82.
APE and MTC and similar big block after-market engine blocks are prohibited.
Accurate replicas of period equipment that is still manufactured are permitted. Remember that the onus of proof for a period part is on the rider. Any doubt may result in a protest regarding eligibility.
Fairing
Fairing and streamlining must be of the type and style in keeping with the period of competition.
Prohibited Uses – PRE 82 Road Racing Sidecar
 Liquid cooled 4-stroke motorcycle engines
 Rear engine sidecars
 Steerable sidecar wheels
 Monocoque construction
 Banking sidecars
 Electronic fuel injection
 Floating brake discs

Any issues If CAMS borrow these as a basis for our 82 Sidecar rules ?
We are running Pre63, Pre72, Pre82 and Pre89..... just waiting to see what turns up before we get to serious about rules, run what ya brung and sliding more important than rules at present
3 on track last club day 1x 82, 1 x 72, 1 x 89 , at least 3 more under construction - an ironhead harley pre 72, Ellipsis/Lachie Imp 72 and a Mo Halley 89(?) being rebuilt

Cheers

[Grumph]

I'd doubt if there'd be a problem Dave. Someone - you ? - needs to sit down and consolidate them into one set from the MNZ book and the register bylaws with the time periods and their differences clear. This would be a great help for anyone building something so they can get wheel diameters and widths right for a start. i'm sure Spyda or Steve - or any of the old buggers lurking here - would help clarify things.
Have a look at the aussie rules as they stand now too - as Steve said, we could see some of them here.

[jellywrestler]

Have a look at the aussie rules as they stand now too - as Steve said, we could see some of them here.

they've still got time to squeeze them into the hampton downs moto fest and dilute the New Zealand tourist Trophy meeting down a little bit more!

[Grumph]

they've still got time to squeeze them into the hampton downs moto fest and dilute the New Zealand tourist Trophy meeting down a little bit more!

Still hard to draw a crowd to bike racing in Auckland is it ?

[jellywrestler]

Still hard to draw a crowd to bike racing in Auckland is it ?

to add to all the shit, they are now combining supers and 600's and adding a signing session for the 'legends', we all want to see them, but this is on top of the time they will be on the track during the day, i think people will start to resent them big time. now tyhey're chuckingh in free style motocross events, three twnty minutes sessions, with dead track time then, by all means have it, but have it when the track day riders are out there, fuck me, they're having repeated sessions so the track day riders will get to see something else,

[Grumph]

Surely you're joking....If the classes are combined it no longer meets requirements for a national points round.

More grounds to appeal any points that may have been lost.

[jellywrestler]

Surely you're joking....If the classes are combined it no longer meets requirements for a national points round.

More grounds to appeal any points that may have been lost.

There's other classes combined like 250 and 300 supers port so don't see how it wouldn't be legal

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[ellipsis]

There's other classes combined like 250 and 300 supers port so don't see how it wouldn't be legal

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...Mickey Mouse is legal but still Mickey Mouse...

[Kickaha]

now tyhey're chuckingh in free style motocross events, three twnty minutes sessions, with dead track time then

What fucking genius idea, I wonder why no other club has thought of doing that

[jellywrestler]

What fucking genius idea, I wonder why no other club has thought of doing that

actually got that wrong, they are overlapping it with track day rides etc...

[sidecar bob]

actually got that wrong, they are overlapping it with track day rides etc...

They should run 600's & supers together, that would save a heap of time & go down like a cup of cold sick . . . .oh, hang on.

[jellywrestler]

They should run 600's & supers together, that would save a heap of time & go down like a cup of cold sick . . . .oh, hang on.

one class in each direction...

[sidecar bob]

one class in each direction...

Now here's a man who understands the meaning of entertainment.

[merv]

Couldn't the sidecars run with the two wheelers too Bob, then there'd only need to be one race class - all in. That would really save time. Bit like a cannonball run on the track.