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    Quote Originally Posted by ellipsis View Post
    ...it's funny how this thread just livened up within a couple of days of deliberation about whats going to turn the wheel on the one I will be hanging off next year...having deliberated about all kinds of things to keep it in the period we want, a full circle has been negotiated and we are going with an/the Imp motor...just dropped off a couple of pair of SU carbs to get sent off to the people who know more than us...we both just acquired the sensible sixties age so all should be well...
    Interesting, remember the Imp from my school days. Just been to Scotland too and went to the Riverside Museum in Glasgow where the Imp is celebrated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by merv View Post
    Interesting, remember the Imp from my school days. Just been to Scotland too and went to the Riverside Museum in Glasgow where the Imp is celebrated.
    I had one. If I knew as much as I thought I did it would have been a lot more reliable. I believe its still possible to buy new 998 engines - I think they were sold as Sunbeam Talbots in the end
    it's not a bad thing till you throw a KLR into the mix.
    those cheap ass bitches can do anything with ductape.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ellipsis View Post
    ...it's funny how this thread just livened up within a couple of days of deliberation about whats going to turn the wheel on the one I will be hanging off next year...having deliberated about all kinds of things to keep it in the period we want, a full circle has been negotiated and we are going with an/the Imp motor...just dropped off a couple of pair of SU carbs to get sent off to the people who know more than us...we both just acquired the sensible sixties age so all should be well...
    I'd have thought they would have closed the loophole allowing those by now, and made you find one that actually was a pump motor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew View Post
    I'd have thought they would have closed the loophole allowing those by now, and made you find one that actually was a pump motor.
    Define loophole....If it was used as a sidecar engine in period, it's an eligible engine.

    Have you been socialising with people from the Register again ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ellipsis View Post
    ...it's funny how this thread just livened up within a couple of days of deliberation about whats going to turn the wheel on the one I will be hanging off next year...having deliberated about all kinds of things to keep it in the period we want, a full circle has been negotiated and we are going with an/the Imp motor...just dropped off a couple of pair of SU carbs to get sent off to the people who know more than us...we both just acquired the sensible sixties age so all should be well...
    Welcome to the fold Neil, I'm sure you have a heap of fun. John Anderson built a really nice Imp outfit about six or seven years ago for his son-in-law. Unfortunately Adrian has serious back problems and doesn't use it now although he did turn up at the last Have a Go Day with it (unlikely to be for sale either unfortunately). As per usual John made an awesome job of it too. If you've got enough folding they can be made to go really well as the Poms make/made all sorts of hot shit for them I believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumph View Post
    Define loophole....If it was used as a sidecar engine in period, it's an eligible engine.

    Have you been socialising with people from the Register again ?
    Quote Originally Posted by Drew View Post
    I'd have thought they would have closed the loophole allowing those by now, and made you find one that actually was a pump motor.
    They are eligible as far as the Register is concerned as far as I know. Why would anyone need a loophole? Most of the Coventry pump motors were only 750cc and a bit down on power. There's one racing with the Register and has been on and off for about 20 something years. Another John Anderson rig.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swarfie View Post
    Welcome to the fold Neil, I'm sure you have a heap of fun. John Anderson built a really nice Imp outfit about six or seven years ago for his son-in-law. Unfortunately Adrian has serious back problems and doesn't use it now although he did turn up at the last Have a Go Day with it (unlikely to be for sale either unfortunately). As per usual John made an awesome job of it too. If you've got enough folding they can be made to go really well as the Poms make/made all sorts of hot shit for them I believe.
    Interestingly, Nev, I was told by a guy in the know here in ChCh that the really quick ones in classic car racing now use I believe a Pugeot block.
    Apparently it's visually identical and the Imp bits swap in. The guy I spoke to was doing the required machining to take them out further than the Imps ever went - around 1300cc.
    We used to have a guy here in ChCh who'd built and raced Imps in the UK and had a worldwide rep - and clients. He's moved to queensland but the guys who did his machining are still here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swarfie View Post
    They are eligible as far as the Register is concerned as far as I know. Why would anyone need a loophole? Most of the Coventry pump motors were only 750cc and a bit down on power. There's one racing with the Register and has been on and off for about 20 something years. Another John Anderson rig.
    No one needs a loophole, I'm just trying to start an argument.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew View Post
    No one needs a loophole, I'm just trying to start an argument.
    No argument from me Drew. Bring it on I say

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew View Post
    No one needs a loophole, I'm just trying to start an argument.
    just race it at the Suzuki series where the rule book is forgotten about....

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    Quote Originally Posted by jellywrestler View Post
    just race it at the Suzuki series where the rule book is forgotten about....
    Tuckerman and Costello. What do you expect?

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    question to you racers

    Just watched a video of the sidecars racing at Taupo, some awesome racing and a huge field of chairs.

    My question is, do you not have to hold your line from the start like we did in speedway, well until you hit the chalk line anyways?

    I noticed in every start one chair seemed to veer straight across to what I imagine is the pole line, I presume he is hoping the others will continue to back off, looked like some, especially that quick #73 chair let him go rather than have a potential Phark-up, especially in the 2nd start.

    Certainly don't want a shit fight, just curious as I have never competed in road racing.

    https://youtu.be/ZQXPjZLU2wY

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    Quote Originally Posted by old slider View Post
    Just watched a video of the sidecars racing at Taupo, some awesome racing and a huge field of chairs.

    My question is, do you not have to hold your line from the start like we did in speedway, well until you hit the chalk line anyways?

    I noticed in every start one chair seemed to veer straight across to what I imagine is the pole line, I presume he is hoping the others will continue to back off, looked like some, especially that quick #73 chair let him go rather than have a potential Phark-up, especially in the 2nd start.

    Certainly don't want a shit fight, just curious as I have never competed in road racing.

    https://youtu.be/ZQXPjZLU2wY
    that's five times world formula one champion and twice formula two champion, think he knows what to do

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    Quote Originally Posted by old slider View Post
    Just watched a video of the sidecars racing at Taupo, some awesome racing and a huge field of chairs.

    My question is, do you not have to hold your line from the start like we did in speedway, well until you hit the chalk line anyways?

    I noticed in every start one chair seemed to veer straight across to what I imagine is the pole line, I presume he is hoping the others will continue to back off, looked like some, especially that quick #73 chair let him go rather than have a potential Phark-up, especially in the 2nd start.

    Certainly don't want a shit fight, just curious as I have never competed in road racing.

    https://youtu.be/ZQXPjZLU2wY
    Tim launches and the chair wheelies, so it turns left. But because it's a short bike he will always beat a long bike off the mark.

    No rule saying we can't swerve.

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