American gun mania

**Mungatoke Mad** · 25th July 2012, 20:34

Originally Posted by misterO

Sales are up simply because people fear tighter regulation.

& all them Bears they got running round

**SMOKEU** · 25th July 2012, 20:39

Originally Posted by Oscar

I'd like to see you kill 12 people in a Movie Theater with a car...

Steal an SUV and go on a rampage in a crowded area. Firearms (legally) require a firearms license to purchase in this country. Anyone can buy a cheap deregistered vehicle with no questions asked and start running people over. If you walk around the streets with a gun, then it will be pretty obvious that you're up to no good. Drive around in a 20 year SUV and chances are no one will take a second look, which makes it even more deadly since it has the element of surprise.

**pzkpfw** · 25th July 2012, 20:45

Originally Posted by Mungatoke Mad

& all them Bears they got running round

Well, they do have the right to arm the bears.

**carburator** · 25th July 2012, 20:49

Originally Posted by SMOKEU

Steal an SUV and go on a rampage in a crowded area. Firearms (legally) require a firearms license to purchase in this country. Anyone can buy a cheap deregistered vehicle with no questions asked and start running people over. If you walk around the streets with a gun, then it will be pretty obvious that you're up to no good. Drive around in a 20 year SUV and chances are no one will take a second look, which makes it even more deadly since it has the element of surprise.

Actually No you don't need a liscence and its been proven a number of times with trademe.
what you need is sellers that are stupid....

hell arm's sale's in the states went up before obama became pressie why possible more arms restrictions.
hell even when the cops are informed that nutters are holding arms ( Molar ) and still do nothing go figure..

**Grubber** · 25th July 2012, 21:07

Originally Posted by SMOKEU

Steal an SUV and go on a rampage in a crowded area. Firearms (legally) require a firearms license to purchase in this country. Anyone can buy a cheap deregistered vehicle with no questions asked and start running people over. If you walk around the streets with a gun, then it will be pretty obvious that you're up to no good. Drive around in a 20 year SUV and chances are no one will take a second look, which makes it even more deadly since it has the element of surprise.

This has to be a stitch up, you can't be serious surely!!!!

**Tigadee** · 25th July 2012, 21:17

Originally Posted by HenryDorsetCase

the interesting thing for me was not the fucking looney with the AR15 (with 100 round drum mag) and shotgun AND a buncha .40 cal glocks, but the fact that he had tactical armour on, a helmet, was using gas and wearing a gas mask. Sure beats the long black coat a la Columbine (or the MAtrix).

Matrix is so passe... Hurt Locker is the in thing now.

**geoffm** · 25th July 2012, 21:23

Given he had explosives in his apartment that took a day to disarm, a gun was better than the traditional Irish surprise of a nail bomb.
Unlike the Columbine loosers, his bombs apparently would have worked plenty well.

**Edbear** · 25th July 2012, 22:06

Gun control has been a non-starter for a very long time. The right to bear arms has been Te American way since inception and nobody now is going to change that.

People may argue but history clearly shows that possessing weapons of itself greatly increases the chance they will be used ahead of alternatives and training means that generally the person is more likely to turn to violence as a solution.

Of course some training, usually in the martial arts teaches restraint and trying other ways first, but unfortunately it seems the world is literally going mad and such incidents will only increase in number.

**The Lone Rider** · 25th July 2012, 22:10

I'm American (can't you tell from the all American avatar?)

The original post by the thread starter has fired me up and/or made me paranoid and/or frightened. I have since gone out and bought a gun in response.

True story.

**Tigadee** · 25th July 2012, 22:52

LR - Single or double action?

**mashman** · 25th July 2012, 23:05

Originally Posted by Tigadee

LR - Single or double action?

He's American... gotta be fully auto with extended clip capacity

**Brett** · 25th July 2012, 23:48

I think that firearms are one of those cat out of the bag things. Once it's ingrained in your culture, you won't get rid of them.

**Akzle** · 26th July 2012, 00:09

Maybe they should follow our lead and arm their police force. Surely that wil help the/...

O.

Wait on...

**Road kill** · 26th July 2012, 06:45

Personally I don't think guns are as much the problem as loonys are.
Plus it's all very popular to point the finger at Americans,but we seem to keep up pretty well in the loony kills en mass stakes,,,,,really it's just a matter of numbers and we may in fact be worse.
Actually we probably are worse because our three worst cases were committed by people with a "known" history of being fruit loops yet our mental health system had done nothing about them.
In America the gun is most popular due to availability,,in the UK the worste mass killing in resent history was committed using a gallon of gas.
When society starts taking genuine responsibility for it's nutters these things will stop.
Until then,,,learn how to reload "it's a lot cheaper than buying factory.