American gun mania

[ducatilover]

I'm not racist. My cat and dog are both black.

Dogs and cats don't have races.

[Tigadee]

You've never shot when you had to before. You are shooting in the dark, at someone who is armed with automatic weapons and body armour and a ballistics helmet who WILL SHOOT BACK at you.

And surrounded by panicked stampeding bystanders to boot! The gunman will have no qualms about shooting at you and through anyone in the way, whereas you need to be extremely careful not to end up shooting another innocent.

The NRA's rationale for more guns instead of less is getting pretty weak. I doubt a roomful of gun-packing bystanders could still take down this guy... Americans obviously get their firearms training from Hollywood movies...

[SMOKEU]

Dogs and cats don't have races.

Oh yes they most certainly do! I can provide pics if you don't believe me.

[HenryDorsetCase]

And surrounded by panicked stampeding bystanders to boot! The gunman will have no qualms about shooting at you and through anyone in the way, whereas you need to be extremely careful not to end up shooting another innocent.

The NRA's rationale for more guns instead of less is getting pretty weak. I doubt a roomful of gun-packing bystanders could still take down this guy... Americans obviously get their firearms training from Hollywood movies...

A Navy SEAL or Willie Apiata could likely take out the looney with the AR15, but Joe Lunchbox? Not so much

[ducatilover]

Oh yes they most certainly do! I can provide pics if you don't believe me.

I see what has happened there

[Road kill]

That explains the violence and crime associated with a certain race of people in NZ.

Yeah I fully agree,,those white cunts have kills thousands of our people.
I belive the Poms left a pretty good number of your people in the dirt as well.
You fucking clown.

[SMOKEU]

Yeah I fully agree,,those white cunts have kills thousands of our people.
I belive the Poms left a pretty good number of your people in the dirt as well.
You fucking clown.

You should be a comedian.

[Tigadee]

A Navy SEAL or Willie Apiata could likely take out the looney with the AR15, but Joe Lunchbox? Not so much

With what? A pen? Pocket knife? I don't think off-duty SEAL or SAS carry a personal firearm, do they?

A lot of off-duty policemen (in America anyway) carry a personal piece, that much is common knowledge but what are the chances there will be one in the exact cinema where something like this happens in the first place? And would the average off-duty policeman be able to handle a situation like that with a head shot?

[puddytat]

Just imagine if everyone starts to carry a gun.....it'd be like a South Park episode . The postal workers starts his spree....someone else has a gun & starts shooting at Him....3rd person with gun sees 2 people in post office shooting...etc etc.....police rock up & think its a coordinated attack of terrorists....
pistols arnt very accurate at anything anyway, throw in the adrenalin shakes....

[Tigadee]

pistols arnt very accurate at anything anyway, throw in the adrenalin shakes....

You're right. Again Hollywood makes people - especially Americans - think that spray and pray works, and that you can shoot a gun out of someone's hand.

Revolvers are much better - solid, reliable and accurate. They should allow six shooters like the good old frontier days! Yeeehah!

[onearmedbandit]

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cr...-with-firearms

The US only ranks #4 for gun deaths (murders) per head of population

Sorry I don't see where it says 'per head of population' on the page you linked. Happy to be proved wrong.

[ducatilover]

Sorry I don't see where it says 'per head of population' on the page you linked. Happy to be proved wrong.

It doesn't. However
SA has 50.5M people,
Colombia has 46.93M
Thailand 70M
The usa, 311.6M the rest is math I cannot be fuckered doing

[BMWST?]

Steal an SUV and go on a rampage in a crowded area. Firearms (legally) require a firearms license to purchase in this country. Anyone can buy a cheap deregistered vehicle with no questions asked and start running people over. If you walk around the streets with a gun, then it will be pretty obvious that you're up to no good. Drive around in a 20 year SUV and chances are no one will take a second look, which makes it even more deadly since it has the element of surprise.

thats completely irrelevant we are talking about guns in the US not guns in NZ

[toebug]

Hell, just let them shoot each other. The world is over populated anyway....

[onearmedbandit]

It doesn't. However
SA has 50.5M people,
Colombia has 46.93M
Thailand 70M
The usa, 311.6M the rest is math I cannot be fuckered doing

Then the Philippines should be ahead of America. At only 1600 fewer murders with firearms than America but less than a 1/3 the population they should be well ahead on a per capita basis. And that's only the first one I looked at. The rank on that link means nothing at all without taking into account population. In fact per capita you'll find the rank is completely different.