American gun mania

[oneofsix]

This thread is full of key-board warriors that 'know' what they would do when a gunman runs amock...

Yep, get low and play dead.

[Tigadee]

Yep, get low, squirt a packet of tomato sauce on your shirt and play dead.

One more bit to do in between get low and play dead...

[SMOKEU]

This thread is full of key-board warriors that 'know' what they would do when a gunman runs amock...

So what would you do, officer?

[jasonu]

Sales are up simply because people fear tighter regulation.

100% correct.

IMOI doubt anything will actually be changed because of this incident. Romney correctly said a law change is pointless as this guy would have done this no matter what the law is. Both the Rebulicans and Democrats will steer clear of this political hot spud because no matter what they do they will risk loosing votes from one camp or another this November. Senior polli Gabrielle Giffords was shot in a similar incident last year in Arizona and fuck all was changed because of that.

[jasonu]

With what? A pen? Pocket knife? I don't think off-duty SEAL or SAS carry a personal firearm, do they?

You think wrong.

[Akzle]

100% correct.

IMOI doubt anything will actually be changed because of this incident. Romney correctly said a law change is pointless as this guy would have done this no matter what the law is.

yeah.. i'm pretty sure lobbing teargas into a cinema and shooting a few dozen people is already illegal... although. tis 'merica. you never know.

That basically fits the stats that came to light post WWII, only about 2% of the infantry deliberately aimed at the enemy, of those 1% were physco's that loved the killing and 1% were protecting their mates. Now which 1% to put Akzle in??
When they followed the stats back as best they could they found it was true of most shooting wars, like the USA civil war were one rifle contained a barrel full of cartridges because the guy had been going through the motions of loading and aiming and reloading without ever firing, just so he looked the part but didn't have to kill anyone.

i take umbrage at your inference (however slight) at my psychopathy.
a shootin war is a completely different scenario.

This thread is full of key-board warriors that 'know' what they would do when a gunman runs amock...

awww. scum puppy didn't get to pway wiff his gwock todaayyy?
(or were you out popping off courier drivers?)


i've already dictated what my carry weapon would have been. yes it's a revolver, but it aint no 380. y' don't need an extended clip, or even the 12+ shots of a normal auto.
you're assertions are PURELY SPECULATIVE.
to be fair, so are mine. but mine have a more positive outcome. =)

[awa355]

Was in the greasys shop this evening, waiting for the weekly roast. ( I cook on pay nights), and read an editorial in an American Gun magazine.

The emphasis was on the number of Police departments across America that were being closed down, and the hundreds of policemen that have been laid off as the economy takes a dive.

Basiclly, it said that with far fewer police on the streets, and the increase in 'crazies' roaming the streets, it was more important than ever that Joe Lunchbox, ( apparently, not a crazy), carried a weapon, on himself, in the car and home to defend him and his family.

I guess with this sort of hysteria being bandied about by the gun lobby, that the 2nd Admendment wont be re-written any time soon.

[Akzle]

Was in the greasys shop this evening, waiting for the weekly roast. ( I cook on pay nights), and read an editorial in an American Gun magazine.

only in te awamutu...

((does one find an american gun magazine in a roast shop)) wtf.

but yeah. everyone should get guns. learn to use em. learn a bit of self control and respect for shit what can kill ya. and teach your kids the same. Xbox guns don't count. IRL you only get fragged once.

[SMOKEU]

learn a bit of self control and respect for shit what can kill ya. and teach your kids the same.

Considering the fact that comparitively few people in NZ can even drive a car safely, I'd hate to think what would happen when the average idiot has a gun.

[Kickaha]

I'd hate to think what would happen when the average idiot has a gun.

I guess we'll find out when you get yours

[Fast Eddie]

I guess we'll find out when you get yours

[SMOKEU]

I guess we'll find out when you get yours

Think what you like, you don't know the half of it.

[oneofsix]

i take umbrage at your inference (however slight) at my psychopathy.
a shootin war is a completely different scenario.

Yeah you are right, I guess you wouldn't be in either of the shooting 1%s, duck, cover and talk big perhaps.
You are also right that a war is completely different, few innocents on the battle field and soldiers were encouraged to shoot at the opposition. No risk of wrongful or accidental shooting suites, greater risk of death or maiming and the soldiers are prepared for what they are facing rather than a nice night at the movies.

[scumdog]

You think wrong.

Yup, just left Texas and there's a fair number of off-duty servicemen and cops carrying a handy, light pistol.

And letting rip with a gun there is just as much fun as it is in NZ!

[Tigadee]

So a sub-compact or compact pistol or revolver with poor sights and terrible range and accuracy for an off-duty weapon?

Doubtful if something like that would have helped in the Colorado scenario with only a small target of the assailant's face being vulnerable in a dark environment, what with the rest of his body being encased in bullet proof helmet, vest and pants.

http://www.slate.com/articles/health..._the_nra_.html
"He [Holmes] wore a ballistic helmet, a ballistic vest, ballistic leggings, a throat protector, a groin protector, and tactical gloves. He was so well equipped that if anyone in that theater had tried what the National Rifle Association recommends—drawing a firearm to stop the carnage—that person would have been dead meat. Holmes didn’t just kill a dozen people. He killed the NRA’s answer to gun violence."

Even if you get a shot off from your 9mm or .380 compact without hitting someone yelling, screaming, tumbling, running all around you, and end up missing his face and instead hit his body or helmet with no effective result, you'd just end up pissing him off more and making yourself and anyone near you the next targets. And who's to say he wasn't juiced up on some drug or drugs, making him nearly immune to any pain should he actually somehow been hit with the small caliber round(s). And stats have shown that the 9mm or smaller are pretty poor for effective stopping power...

You could be hailed as a hero for likely delaying him for a few seconds from shooting somebody else, but you'd be a dead hero. Tango and Cash is Hollywood, not real-life...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsGq4...ailpage#t=120s