American gun mania

**ducatilover** · 6th August 2012, 18:21

Poofters.

Belt feed.

**scumdog** · 6th August 2012, 19:05

Originally Posted by Akzle

then there'd be no excuse for collateral...

but hlyfknsht have you seen what the 'sabot' slugs do to a 200 gallon drum!?

Yes!

Not a whole mags worth though

**pritch** · 7th August 2012, 16:19

Originally Posted by Akzle

then there'd be no excuse for collateral...

but hlyfknsht have you seen what the 'sabot' slugs do to a 200 gallon drum!?

That's a big drum. I guess those sabot slugs would be real handy if you were ever attacked by a big drum?

**scumdog** · 7th August 2012, 17:06

Originally Posted by pritch

That's a big drum. I guess those sabot slugs would be real handy if you were ever attacked by a big drum?

C'mon pritch - ya trying to make it obvious Axzle can't tell the difference between gallons and litres??

**Akzle** · 7th August 2012, 19:42

Originally Posted by scumdog

C'mon pritch - ya trying to make it obvious Axzle can't tell the difference between gallons and litres??

yeah, well. as it was.
(i was thinking of 200 litre)
but yes. invasion of the drums. or bears with lasers in their eyes. maybe even jackoffs that shoot up movie theatres.
(just imagine the noise.... he'd poo hisself)

**Timber020** · 8th August 2012, 00:16

Originally Posted by Akzle

yeah. because how many pistols do you keep that weight 3 kilo? (i was including rifle rounds in that measure)
the grips in dem days were DESIGNED to allow the pistol to roll back in the hand when fired. that's the hump-backed grip.

huh. now here we need to consider that .45acp is just that. 45 AUTOMATIC colt pistol calibre.
half the recoil (not half, but a bit) goes into racking the action. the .44 mag specified is a revolver, 100% of that recoil is going through the frame.
45"non magnum" is a flat shooting, hard hitting calibre, being big bore and medium velocity, it shoots "softer" than a 9mm para.
.45 acp has a lighter projectile, and a lighter powder load than 44 mag.

Very little recoil is lost through the slide, but its spread more over a long period of time. most of the difference is the barrel being higher from the point of grip. Revolvers also loose more power due to the gapes in front of the chamber compared to an auto. moving the slide costs about 10 to 20fpm in round speed, which isnt really that much.

**Akzle** · 8th August 2012, 09:16

Originally Posted by Timber020

Very little recoil is lost through the slide, but its spread more over a long period of time. most of the difference is the barrel being higher from the point of grip. Revolvers also loose more power due to the gapes in front of the chamber compared to an auto. moving the slide costs about 10 to 20fpm in round speed, which isnt really that much.

feet per minute?? that'd be .6-1.2 fps?
interesting comparison, i'd be interested to know how and where that was done...

that'd depend entirely on teh revolver. i've done seen revolvers silenced to the point of silence. literally you can hear the bar come up and the hammer strike, but not the discharge.
cheers for your input. (i'm pretty sure i've already mentioned that autos are designed to recoil flat - you've just explained it)

**misterO** · 8th August 2012, 10:30

A silenced revolver?

**Timber020** · 8th August 2012, 15:32

Originally Posted by Akzle

feet per minute?? that'd be .6-1.2 fps?
interesting comparison, i'd be interested to know how and where that was done...

that'd depend entirely on teh revolver. i've done seen revolvers silenced to the point of silence. literally you can hear the bar come up and the hammer strike, but not the discharge.
cheers for your input. (i'm pretty sure i've already mentioned that autos are designed to recoil flat - you've just explained it)

sorry I did mean fps. I guy I used to work with at a shooting range did a test many moons back, he was a sniper in the coast guard of all things.
Where did you see this so well silenced revolver?