American gun mania

[Mom]

In my experience of people that own/want to own/operate/fire/have fun with an automatic weapon, it is simply the ultimate weapon. A bit like our desire to own/ride/see our own ride. No different. There is far, far more involved in these horribly tragic shootings.

Here in NZ it is not easy to have these sort of weapons at your disposal legally, I am picking there are a few out there that are not legal. There are strict and vital steps you have to take to own or operate these kind of weapons. Our gun laws are reasonably robust.

We make mistakes here, and while you can legislate in an attempt to protect "gen pop" you can never get it completely right.

The States really need to review their laws regarding guns, perhaps the killing of babies (young children) will stir enough emotion to make something happen over there.

Not holding my breath here...

[Mom]

I suspect a fair amount of it is linked to a vast loss of touch with reality..

Mental health issues?

[blue rider]

Fruit-loops love the looks

Real shooters appreciate them differently - I've use one for goat-culling for example.

FYI: One of our own little massacres was performed by a person using single-shot shot-gun

(You put in a live shell, fire a shot, remove the empty shell, put another live shell in and you can go bang again, repeat as many times as neccessary)

goat culling? with an assault rifle? what do you use when you go wild pig hunting?

nope i don't understand it.

[scumdog]

Mental health issues?

In a word: Yes.

[Mom]

In a word: Yes.

Need to spread apparently...

How WUDE!!!!!!

[Macontour]

THis may explain a bit..........a classic from Bob Geldof and the Boomtown Rats.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaHAvEEbQOE

[mashman]

I suspect a fair amount of it is linked to a vast loss of touch with reality..

What's the criteria for the gun ownership over here

[scumdog]

What's the criteria for the gun ownership over here

Go to you local cop-shop and tell them you want a catagory E firearms licence endorsement.

Then you'll find out what sort of hoops you can jump through.

[SMOKEU]

What's the criteria for the gun ownership over here

A cat is pretty easy. B, C, D and E cat are a whole different story.

[rustic101]

THis may explain a bit..........a classic from Bob Geldof and the Boomtown Rats.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaHAvEEbQOE

History

According to Geldof, he wrote the song after reading a telex report at Georgia State University's campus radio station, WRAS, on the shooting spree of 16-year-old Brenda Ann Spencer, who fired at children in a school playground at Grover Cleveland Elementary School in San Diego, California on 29 January 1979, killing two adults and injuring eight children and one police officer. Spencer showed no remorse for her crime and her full explanation for her actions was "I don't like Mondays. This livens up the day".^[1] The song was first performed less than a month later. Geldof explained how he wrote the song:

I was doing a radio interview in Atlanta with Fingers and there was a telex machine beside me. I read it as it came out. Not liking Mondays as a reason for doing somebody in is a bit strange. I was thinking about it on the way back to the hotel and I just said 'Silicon chip inside her head had switched to overload'. I wrote that down. And the journalists interviewing her said, 'Tell me why?' It was such a senseless act. It was the perfect senseless act and this was the perfect senseless reason for doing it. So perhaps I wrote the perfect senseless song to illustrate it. It wasn't an attempt to exploit tragedy.^[2]

Geldof had originally intended the song as a B-side, but changed his mind after the song was successful with audiences on the Rats' US tour.^[2] Spencer's family tried unsuccessfully to prevent the single from being released in the United States.^[2] Despite being a major hit in the United Kingdom, it only reached #73 on the US Billboard Hot 100.^[3] The song was played regularly by album-oriented rock format radio stations in the United States throughout the 1980s, although radio stations in San Diego refrained from playing the track for some years in respect to local sensitivities about the shooting. The song became Number One in the UK single charts in July 1979. In the UK it won the Best Pop Song and Outstanding British Lyric categories at the Ivor Novello Awards.^[4] It was subsequently covered by Tori Amos on her 2001 album Strange Little Girls and later by G4 on their 2006 album Act Three.

[BMWST?]

In my experience of people that own/want to own/operate/fire/have fun with an automatic weapon, it is simply the ultimate weapon. A bit like our desire to own/ride/see our own ride. No different. There is far, far more involved in these horribly tragic shootings.

Straw man argument.Owning a high powered motorcyle is dangerous,mostly to the operator,maybe one or two others.Owning an AR15,or AK 47 is a little bit different.No one...i repeat no one needs one of those,and if they want one its not operational..
I know,but it would make it a little bit harder on monday morning when you didnt want to go to school(thank Bob)
The whole escalation of guns vs more guns is not going to work either

[SMOKEU]

Straw man argument.Owning a high powered motorcyle is dangerous,mostly to the operator,maybe one or two others.Owning an AR15,or AK 47 is a little bit different.No one...i repeat no one needs one of those
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Owning such a weapon will be essential for survival in the inevitable Islamic takeover.

[Usarka]

If the americans have the right to bear arms then why can't they carry them on planes?

[Kickaha]

So with this "gun control" the next nutter that can't get a gun will just use something else

Without a gun you'd struggle to kill as many people in as short a time, would he have got the same number if he'd only had a knife or a baseball bat?

[puddytat]

Owning such a weapon will be essential for survival in the inevitable Islamic takeover.

Bro, comments like that will make it real hard for you to get one(if you dont already have several)...