There's still some things need sorting but it's getting better

[codgyoleracer]

Yup good call, had a few indepth talks with Skunk and Clive and got it sorted.

The solution is to eliminate the problem and that is to not use the slip road. Its not gonna slow the racing down because we have to wait there for ages after the bikes have gone passed anyway

Tend to agree that the slip road use is a problem potentially waiting to happen, and is also inconsistent with standard practice at many tracks, - + intermittent between the various clubs that run meetings at manfield.

Nevertheless, its the clubs call at the end of the day.......

GW

[RobGassit]

So one rider is impatient and has a brain fart, and now the club and the marshalls are at fault. You're taking the piss surely.

[Kickaha]

(kickaha tells me the same happens at levels, i've only been to the Nationals there and it's a full wind down lap)

Club day only thing

At Ruapuna club days after the chequered flag bikes are stopped before the hairpin and after the track is clear sent through the bypass

[jellywrestler]

Those 'children', as are all marshals, are instructed by race control.
One of those 'children' is a very experienced marshal, with a number of years under his belt.

I'll back that up too, mixing with them at lunch they have tags on to show they've done the work to get where they are there are various levels of flag marshall quals.
These people are the backbone of a meeting, something some people often forget.

[CHOPPA]

Oh, you are in a bad way, aren't you?

Those 'children', as are all marshals, are instructed by race control.
One of those 'children' is a very experienced marshal, with a number of years under his belt.

The system has worked for a number of years...in earlier race meetings you have understood it all, and not been confused by it all.

Brain fade? Or is age catching up with you?

Well why would they raise a green flag above there head when it is not clear to cross the track? obviously not experienced enough.....

[CHOPPA]

So one rider is impatient and has a brain fart, and now the club and the marshalls are at fault. You're taking the piss surely.

Or maybe that rider is one of the most experienced people at the meeting and maybe they have a point??

[CHOPPA]

Tend to agree that the slip road use is a problem potentially waiting to happen, and is also inconsistent with standard practice at many tracks, - + intermittent between the various clubs that run meetings at manfield.

Nevertheless, its the clubs call at the end of the day.......

GW

Thats because your an intelligent man!

[Skunk]

Or maybe that rider is one of the most experienced people at the meeting and maybe they have a point??
Thats because your an intelligent man!

I guess you're the only sane, intelligent, safe person on the forum today Choppa. How come you're not MNZ President, Road Race Commissioner, Clerk of Course, Steward, Flag Marshal or Race Organiser?

I'm thinking it's because you're mostly talking out your arse again.

You're one of the riders that completely and dangerously broke the rules and the consequences of that thoughtless, self-centred, action is going to rain down on everyone next round. Pat yourself on the back. You've done well.

And ruined my weekend (and probably the next few weeks).

[Shaun]

CHOPPA is correct about the slip road being a potentually dangerous situation!!!! Just stop using it and the potentuall is eliminated!

But then again,nothing gets taken seriously on here,no matter who says what, so just keep up the abuse team, it is as funny as shit to read when I am killing time

[codgyoleracer]

I guess you're the only sane, intelligent, safe person on the forum today Choppa. How come you're not MNZ President, Road Race Commissioner, Clerk of Course, Steward, Flag Marshal or Race Organiser?

I'm thinking it's because you're mostly talking out your arse again.

You're one of the riders that completely and dangerously broke the rules and the consequences of that thoughtless, self-centred, action is going to rain down on everyone next round. Pat yourself on the back. You've done well.

And ruined my weekend (and probably the next few weeks).

Andrew, without doubt you guys have the best possible process and operation of the slip road in place (if it's is chosen to be used). Short of having a marshall out on the slip road exit with a radio and flag (which comes with its own problems)

I dont think Chops is grizzling about being pinged, - he is just commenting on an incident that he happened to be involved with & that was highlighted by Jelly.

The facts of the matter are, there is a dedicated track exit technique set in place for Manfield "keep well left when entering/exiting Dunlop whilst slowing, Plenty of signaling, Enter pitlane (and it would be easy to argue that even that technique is a bit dodgy on occasions ! ), - IMO using any another option only adds to the potential risk exposure for the club.

Nevertheless - i fully understand why you use the slip road and am happy to use either system myself. All i am saying is that one has preference over the other IMO.

By the way, Great turn out & Great job for this round 3, and whilst its easy for Jelly to bitch about niggly issues - the reality is that they represent a tiny percentage only of the multitude of decisions made by organisers and riders within a days racing that could have a potentially negative outcome.

Glen

[Billy]

CHOPPA is correct about the slip road being a potentually dangerous situation!!!! Just stop using it and the potentuall is eliminated!

But then again,nothing gets taken seriously on here,no matter who says what, so just keep up the abuse team, it is as funny as shit to read when I am killing time

Andrew, without doubt you guys have the best possible process and operation of the slip road in place (if it's is chosen to be used). Short of having a marshall out on the slip road exit with a radio and flag (which comes with its own problems)

I dont think Chops is grizzling about being pinged, - he is just commenting on an incident that he happened to be involved with & that was highlighted by Jelly.

The facts of the matter are, there is a dedicated track exit technique set in place for Manfield "keep well left when entering/exiting Dunlop whilst slowing, Plenty of signaling, Enter pitlane (and it would be easy to argue that even that technique is a bit dodgy on occasions ! ), - IMO using any another option only adds to the potential risk exposure for the club.

Nevertheless - i fully understand why you use the slip road and am happy to use either system myself. All i am saying is that one has preference over the other IMO.

By the way, Great turn & Great job out for this round 3, and whilst its easy for Jelly to bitch about niggly issues - the reality is that they represent a tiny percentage only of the multitude of decisions made by organisers and riders within a days racing that could have a potentially negative outcome.

Glen

REALLY you guys see the problem here is the use of the slip road thats been in use for over 20 years and not Sloans actions in changing the rules on the spot and putting others lives at risk by crossing the track while machines are still circulating,2 months after a fatality caused by somebody else not following the correct safety protocol????

Jeez Glen atleast Shauns got an excuse,I thought you two would have known better than to condone these sort of irresponsible and dangerous actions,Still we learn something new every day eh!

[codgyoleracer]

Jeez Glen atleast Shauns got an excuse,I thought you two would have known better than to condone these sort of irresponsible and dangerous actions,Still we learn something new every day eh![/QUOTE]

HaHa, good to see you back Billy, and risking that high paying part time MNZ position.

I dont and havent condoned any actions, I did say Choppa got pinged for it and i assume he will get the ole-damp bus ticket slap on the back of the wrist approach as usual ?, But then again as we both know MNZ appears to takes a different approach for the more "well heeled" riders , So Sloan should maybe be a recipient of your $500 fine option ?

You are correct in that Shaun has got a good excuse to make comment - he is / was a world class rider........... I assume thats what you are inferring ?, anything less would be offensive from a man of your position and social standing........ :-)

Long live KB !

Glen W

[roadracingoldfart]

As i wasnt there i wont be specific or mention Choppa or Shaun or Glen's names either.
The fact is i have always liked the slip road (that like started in 1986) and yet in all those years the silly system has been to wave a cute flag to allow the riders to move across the track back to the pits from the start line. Why not use a light / siren/ hooter to control it and that can be controlled by an official high in thye control room with safety and authority. This can be located like a bloody great search light on the stand side of the track and this wont create the need to place a pole to mount said light on . What say you peasants ??

[roadracingoldfart]

mixing with them at lunch they...

I just got a mental picture of you consuming a filled roll !!

[Grumph]

Club day only thing

At Ruapuna club days after the chequered flag bikes are stopped before the hairpin and after the track is clear sent through the bypass

AFAIK that's MCI only. CAMS and BEARS who operate from ground level as they're forbidden the tower still use the drag strip return road as track exit.
Some have said it's confusing - personally I don't know why MCI changed to using the slip road - I suspect it was the idea of a past President.....