There's still some things need sorting but it's getting better

**Billy** · 30th July 2012, 16:50

Originally Posted by Biggles08

Not quite my point Billy and I wasn't calling anyone an arsehole (but for the record Drew is) and like you explained, there would be no racing if those events unfolded...however, if no racers showed up (not just the rock-stars you mentioned) there also wouldn't be an event. After all, the whole point is to have bikes going around in circles.

This next point in no way is supposed to be aimed at anyone or meant in a negative way or even directed at this thread necessarily...if you take it that way it is your problem as I am not intending it to be abrasive....

We need to get rid of the "us and them" attitude that seems so engrained in those involved in this sport...the racers are not the enemy just as the organizers shouldn't be the racers enemy. I'm not sure why this is and maybe it is frustration on behalf of those I am referring to because they have put so much effort into the sport behind the scenes and then feel like no one cares or listens and they don't get any recognition for this effort/commitment. Then someone comes along and tries to change the way things are done which adds fuel to the fire.

I for one think EVERYONE that is involved with VMCC are doing a fantastic job and I make sure I tell Skunk this most meetings. But just because I don't go around to every flag marshal, every person in a high vis vest, everyone up in the tower or every MNZ representative does not make me any less appreciative of the effort they are putting in. I don't think there are any racers that I know of that would not appreciate what is done to organize these events for us...that's to say I don't know ANYONE that doesn't appreciate it. This now being a given, changing the way things are done to improve things for the sport should be embraced as much as possible by all wouldn't you say? We don't want to be re-inventing the wheel but discussions about these potential changes or ideas can be quite useful on sites such as this if all the BS is filtered out. I just think people get to wound up about preserving their legacy somewhat and forget the whole point they are involved in motorcycle racing just to defend said legacy.

Haha,

I know you weren't implying I was an arsehole,What I was suggesting was,That if somebody has too be if thats what it takes to save lives,Then I'm only too happy to be that person.

As far as the "us and them" attitude is concerned,I agree that there should be honest and open discussion amongst ALL members when it comes to deciding the future rules and their enforcement and I defy anybody to tell me when or where they have approached me as Roadrace commissioner and I haven't gone out of my way to see their needs are met,Or concerns aren't atleast looked at and a report made back to that member.

BUT !!! Come raceday and all friendships are out the door because the rules HAVE to be enforced in a rational manner,Thats just how it has to be,Nationals for 2013 will be a very different animal to last year,We have a technical rep and series steward onboard who take their jobs just as seriously as I do mine,There will be a designated parc ferme and there will be technical checks at every round,ANYBODY who falls outside the rules WILL be dealt with in an appropriate manner,If any irregularities are discovered before a race,Then you will be prevented from taking part in that event and until such times as your machine or rider conduct comply.

I did not take this job on for the free cap and badge(Which incidentally you don't get,In fact despite putting in 30 hours per week of my time free of charge,I still get to pay for my licence LOL),Nor did I take it on because I thought everybody would agree with every decision we make,What I will not put up with is competitors who think they can break the rules willy nilly and then talk their way out of it.Update on the slip road at Manfeild,Steve is on annual leave til the 5th of August and I have left a message on his answerphone requesting he gets back too me asap.

**jellywrestler** · 30th July 2012, 17:02

Originally Posted by Billy

Not quite true Marcus,

Example,Say for arguments sake Craig Shirriffs dont turn up to race at a meeting,Do you seriously think everybody else will go home????

I'm lay a tenner that the man selling pies would.

**Biggles08** · 30th July 2012, 20:01

Originally Posted by Billy

Haha,

I know you weren't implying I was an arsehole,What I was suggesting was,That if somebody has too be if thats what it takes to save lives,Then I'm only too happy to be that person.

As far as the "us and them" attitude is concerned,I agree that there should be honest and open discussion amongst ALL members when it comes to deciding the future rules and their enforcement and I defy anybody to tell me when or where they have approached me as Roadrace commissioner and I haven't gone out of my way to see their needs are met,Or concerns aren't atleast looked at and a report made back to that member.

BUT !!! Come raceday and all friendships are out the door because the rules HAVE to be enforced in a rational manner,Thats just how it has to be,Nationals for 2013 will be a very different animal to last year,We have a technical rep and series steward onboard who take their jobs just as seriously as I do mine,There will be a designated parc ferme and there will be technical checks at every round,ANYBODY who falls outside the rules WILL be dealt with in an appropriate manner,If any irregularities are discovered before a race,Then you will be prevented from taking part in that event and until such times as your machine or rider conduct comply.

I did not take this job on for the free cap and badge(Which incidentally you don't get,In fact despite putting in 30 hours per week of my time free of charge,I still get to pay for my licence LOL),Nor did I take it on because I thought everybody would agree with every decision we make,What I will not put up with is competitors who think they can break the rules willy nilly and then talk their way out of it.Update on the slip road at Manfeild,Steve is on annual leave til the 5th of August and I have left a message on his answerphone requesting he gets back too me asap.

Fair call and I can't disagree with any of that.....arsehole.

**Billy** · 30th July 2012, 20:06

Originally Posted by Biggles08

Fair call and I can't disagree with any of that.....arsehole.

No worries Morris/Maurice/Marcus,I'm loving that new name,Kind of suits me really Hahahaha!

**Kevin G** · 30th July 2012, 20:25

Originally Posted by Billy

No worries Morris/Maurice/Marcus,I'm loving that new name,Kind of suits me really Hahahaha!

I think King Dingaling is waaaaay better

**Billy** · 30th July 2012, 20:35

Originally Posted by Kevin G

I think King Dingaling is waaaaay better

Bwahahahahaha!Okay you got me,King Dingaling the areshole! Howzat????Whatever its just a name LOL!

**roadracingoldfart** · 30th July 2012, 21:22

Originally Posted by Billy

Haha,

I know you weren't implying I was an arsehole,.

Yes he was he just got a little bit worried you would pick on him ya nasty fag.(sorry , Arsehole)

Originally Posted by jellywrestler

I'm lay a tenner that the man selling pies would.

I love that angle Mr Jelly lol.

Originally Posted by Billy

No worries Morris/Maurice/Marcus,I'm loving that new name,Kind of suits me really Hahahaha!

Umm Billy , thats not a new name for you buddy.

**Maido** · 31st July 2012, 07:58

I love racing in the south, its too cold to go near a track for at least 2 more months.
Reading all this makes me really miss the sport in the off season.

**CHOPPA** · 31st July 2012, 11:25

Originally Posted by Maido

I love racing in the south, its too cold to go near a track for at least 2 more months.
Reading all this makes me really miss the sport in the off season.

Need something to keep the adrenaline pumping between races! KB has been a bit boring lately

**jellywrestler** · 1st August 2012, 12:11

Originally Posted by Billy

King Dingaling the areshole!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoApJpm-J0k

**RobGassit** · 1st August 2012, 12:46

Jeez your'e a stirrer, first Chop and now Billy! Like lambs to the slaughter.

**Billy** · 1st August 2012, 13:06

Originally Posted by RobGassit

Jeez your'e a stirrer, first Chop and now Billy! Like lambs to the slaughter.

Originally Posted by jellywrestler

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoApJpm-J0k

Hahahahahahaha!Classic,You got me you bastard,You'll keep

**jellywrestler** · 1st August 2012, 13:06

Originally Posted by RobGassit

Jeez your'e a stirrer, first Chop and now Billy! Like lambs to the slaughter.

yep and next I'll mention a rider at pukekohe in mid-may who on a open day, in one session, where there were Superbikes to classics to novices to road bikes on the track, overshot the pitlane entry.
He then DID A U TURN, RODE BACK DOWN THE TRACK AND DID ANOTHER U TURN into the pit entrance, all in the middle of a session!!!!