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    Quote Originally Posted by gammaguy View Post

    Back on topic,I tend to feel that the better approach to this will be more succesful if it it pitched as less of a "Kiwis take on the world"and more of a "lets get local riders on board a more relevant bike"

    The riders who were and the public at large are hugely more informed now than they were in the nineties when Mr Britten was campaigning his machine,thanks largely to the internet.

    To garner public support needs an onside and informed support from NZ and I feel a more realistic target will be NZ champs at least to start with.

    Realistic targets are more easily achieved and then you have a winner not just a contender.
    And that is precisely what our project is about, precisely.
    We realise where our limits are in Moto Academy NZ. We are not a world championship team, but we are good at providing young riders with a solid grounding, it is up to them how they apply that and what they subsequently do with it.
    One thing I think is really missing in NZ are the real, concrete, actual, infrastructures to take those young riders with talent and skill base on to the next level without having to risk their parents houses and businesses to do it.
    Sure it all takes money, but having an infrastructure of the type of Moto Academy NZ or the FMI in Italy (not to compare the two) allows these things to be done more efficiently and hence for lower costs to the riders themselves.
    Our long term plan with the bikes is to take on the world in the marketplace, not in the sports arena. That is up to racing teams.
    I would love to be involved in a world champs racing team, but that is not the plan currently.
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    I hope there is tee shirt big enough !!!

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    Hey Steve

    Just as an idea, why dont you post this concept to maybe some of the Engineering Universities in New Zealand.
    I could be the fastest way to get a prototype designed and built for free if the University agrees to fund it.

    Just an idea anyway.

    I'd be happy to help out in anyway.

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveyJones View Post
    Hey Steve

    Just as an idea, why dont you post this concept to maybe some of the Engineering Universities in New Zealand.
    I could be the fastest way to get a prototype designed and built for free if the University agrees to fund it.

    Just an idea anyway.

    I'd be happy to help out in anyway.

    Cheers
    Hey Dave.
    Yep, thought about that, but there are several barriers to doing such a thing:
    1) It simply takes too long. It would take at least a year, probably three because many things need to be built into the project above and beyond just building a prototype, and funding needs to be obtained; what's in it for the students, when are they going to do it, has anyone actually done it before so will anything they do be any good, what science or engineering problem are they solving/investigating by doing the project? Remember, universities are not jobbing shops, projects are worked out often several years ahead of time in order to get students and resources lined up.

    2) Who will own the IP? Universities do nothing for free, nothing. Someone has to pay for it some how. Usually that is the taxpayer, but in the case of industrial projects it is the company, or the university takes an equity stake. In our case, all the IP will reside with the experts invovled in the project, so we are paying them for their time to contribute to the prototype. In that way the project gets completed on time by people who know what they are doing.

    3) However, there are aspects that can and might well be looked at by the university. For instance, I am in discussions with the design school at Massey Wellington to study the aerodynamic efficiencies of different bike and fairing shapes. These sorts of projects are what the universities are really good at, but someone still has to pay for it. We will see how it goes.

    Cheers mate.
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    Really wish you all the best with this Steve, and obviously you have the engineers and the riders to pull it off, maybe even before the Nationals. If we had more than fumes to run our team on, we would happily support your team in some small way. Just keep forging on and in the meantime Sarah and I will be saving up for a couple of your team supporters T shirts.
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    ..........
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    Quote Originally Posted by steveyb View Post
    3) However, there are aspects that can and might well be looked at by the university. For instance, I am in discussions with the design school at Massey Wellington to study the aerodynamic efficiencies of different bike and fairing shapes. These sorts of projects are what the universities are really good at, but someone still has to pay for it. We will see how it goes.
    Massey's engineering department is a joke, don't waste your time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by quallman1234 View Post
    Massey's engineering department is a joke, don't waste your time.
    Hahaha, maybe so, I would not like to comment.
    No, I am talking with the Institute of Design for Industry and the Environment.
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    Dunno whether this is the sort of thing you are meaning

    http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/MORIWAKI-...item48463a9025

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    Yes, that is the Moriwaki.
    That one has been on there for ages, and the price is falling.
    Not sure what that means, but a fairly good buy for that price I would think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by steveyb View Post
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    you better take a job at mackas steve and top it up then eh
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    You reckon that after a look at my CV they would hire me?
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    Quote Originally Posted by steveyb View Post
    You reckon that after a look at my CV they would hire me?
    Fluffer in the porno industry maybe ...
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