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    Quote Originally Posted by Sketchy_Racer View Post
    Hate to say it but if Wobbly turns up with his RZ400 F3 bike, nothing will see which way it went. It's sitting at over 90Hp and I believe he plans to get close to 100 from what I have read/been told. All that in a bike that will be 40KG lighter, F3 just got serious.
    A few years back a certain Stan Stephens built up a RZ350 engined race bike.

    It was so good,all the 4T wankers got together and banned it.

    As far as I am concerned,that was the best praise they could give it.

    Stan Stephens still laughs about it.
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    Haha yep my frame is blue - im putting a er in a ZXR frame......going with the norm aint really my thing

    the motors pull the ponys - they are just a tad heavy.....

    the rz400 sounds like a weapon......however to finish first............................................. ..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sketchy_Racer View Post
    Hate to say it but if Wobbly turns up with his RZ400 F3 bike, nothing will see which way it went. It's sitting at over 90Hp and I believe he plans to get close to 100 from what I have read/been told. All that in a bike that will be 40KG lighter, F3 just got serious.
    Yip,

    97 rwhp at its first Dyno session,Engine temp would suggest it could drop another 2 sizes on the mainjet,100rwhp easy,Still why would you bother to risk it 97 is heaps,Not convinced it will be 40kg lighter,But it probably doesn't need to be either.Weve just finished designing and producing the bodywork and its being fitted as we speak,First test was to be this Wed but the pilot hurt himself,Watch this space,Long live the two stroke

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy View Post
    Yip,

    97 rwhp at its first Dyno session,Engine temp would suggest it could drop another 2 sizes on the mainjet,100rwhp easy,Still why would you bother to risk it 97 is heaps,Not convinced it will be 40kg lighter,But it probably doesn't need to be either.Weve just finished designing and producing the bodywork and its being fitted as we speak,First test was to be this Wed but the pilot hurt himself,Watch this space,Long live the two stroke
    Im tempted to order one as a road bike....
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    Quote Originally Posted by gammaguy View Post
    Im tempted to order one as a road bike....
    Haha yea same,

    Funnily enough Wobbly does a roadbike version,In fact he has one sitting in his workshop right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy View Post
    Yip,

    97 rwhp at its first Dyno session,Engine temp would suggest it could drop another 2 sizes on the mainjet,100rwhp easy,Still why would you bother to risk it 97 is heaps,Not convinced it will be 40kg lighter,But it probably doesn't need to be either.Weve just finished designing and producing the bodywork and its being fitted as we speak,First test was to be this Wed but the pilot hurt himself,Watch this space,Long live the two stroke
    Awesome! Pictures please!!??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sketchy_Racer View Post
    Hate to say it but if Wobbly turns up with his RZ400 F3 bike, nothing will see which way it went. It's sitting at over 90Hp and I believe he plans to get close to 100 from what I have read/been told. All that in a bike that will be 40KG lighter, F3 just got serious.
    its got the firing pulse of a 800 four stroke . should not even be allowed out in f3 ! more like super bikes ! but some people like srewing with classes to suit them selves

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazy man View Post
    its got the firing pulse of a 800 four stroke . should not even be allowed out in f3 ! more like super bikes ! but some people like srewing with classes to suit them selves
    Who would that be then???????

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazy man View Post
    its got the firing pulse of a 800 four stroke . should not even be allowed out in f3 ! more like super bikes ! but some people like srewing with classes to suit them selves
    Or is it people building bikes around the rules in place?

    Quote Originally Posted by Billy View Post
    Who would that be then???????
    You are allowed up to 750cc air cooled four strokes in F3 anyway aren't ya?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew View Post
    Or is it people building bikes around the rules in place?

    You are allowed up to 750cc air cooled four strokes in F3 anyway aren't ya?
    Two valve air cooled. Appendix B 1.6 means anything with more than 2 valves per cylinder are limited to 650cc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew View Post
    Or is it people building bikes around the rules in place?

    You are allowed up to 750cc air cooled four strokes in F3 anyway aren't ya?
    Yip,You sure are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mental Trousers View Post
    Two valve air cooled. Appendix B 1.6 means anything with more than 2 valves per cylinder are limited to 650cc.
    I can't open the fuckin PDF for some tittie fucking cock sucking reason. Does it say how many cc's though? I'm off to buy a 900ss Ducati if not, and I'm finally gonna get me a title! Those things can be coerced into producing 100+ ponies on a standard crank some spaghetti slurper reckons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew View Post
    I can't open the fuckin PDF for some tittie fucking cock sucking reason. Does it say how many cc's though? I'm off to buy a 900ss Ducati if not, and I'm finally gonna get me a title! Those things can be coerced into producing 100+ ponies on a standard crank some spaghetti slurper reckons.
    Appendix B et al

    SUPERLITE REGULATIONS
    Superlite class will exist for ‘formula’ type machines. The class listed below (1-1 to 1-5) allows modifications to the machines to be carried out while still keeping a similar level of performance between machines.
    These rules apply to all National Championship and Endurance Championship races. At other meetings these rules will apply unless varied in the Supplementary Regulations.
    1 Capacity Groups:
    (Refer to rule 5 below for specifications and restrictions within a capacity group)
    1.1 Multi-cylinder four Stroke up to 450cc
    1.1a the working displacement of a 3 or 4 cylinder 4 Stroke (cylinders producing power) shall be no more than 450cc.
    1.2 Multi-cylinder production based two strokes up to 400cc
    1.3 Twin cylinder, air cooled, four stroke up to 750cc
    1.4 Single cylinder four stroke 251cc - Open Capacity
    1.5 Single cylinder two stroke 200cc - 500cc
    1.6 Twin cylinder, 2 or more valves, water cooled 4 Stroke up to 650cc
    2 Number Plate Colours and placement:
    Refer to rule 10.2.3
    3 Fuel:
    Refer to rule 10.17.2
    4 Machine Specifications (General):
    All machines must comply with the relevant General Competition
    Rules such as Chapter 10. Machines with re-bored cylinders must remain within the appropriate capacity limit.
    4.1 Multi-cylinder four stroke machines eligible under rule 1.1 shall only be limited to the capacity, and fuel requirements above.
    4.2 The specifications for up to 400cc two stroke Production based machines eligible under 1.2 are described in rule 5.
    4.3 Twin cylinder four strokes shall be limited as follows:
    a) Up to 500cc, no restrictions apart from fuel as above.
    b) Over 500cc, two valves per cylinder are restricted to 750cc and must be air cooled, fuel as per rule 3,
    Effective 1st January 2012
    c) Over 500cc, two or more valves per cylinder and water cooled are restricted to 650cc, fuel as per rule 3, Additionally these machines must retain the standard OEM air box/cleaner assembly in its entirety, air filter element and carburettor (with the exception of removable jets or throttle body, including injector).
    4.4 Single cylinder four stroke machines eligible under rule 1.4 shall only be limited to the fuel requirements as per rule 3. Capacity is unrestricted.
    4.5 Single cylinder two stroke machines eligible under rule 1.5 shall be limited to the capacity and fuel requirements as per rule 3.
    4.6 Be fitted with clip-on style bars (no MX, Motard, and Enduro or trail/dual purpose style of handle bars)
    5 Specifications for up to 400cc two stroke production based machines:
    The machine must be based on a production motorcycle. No homologation is necessary however the Road Race Commission or Technical Steward shall have the power to rule whether or not a machine is eligible.
    5.1 Capacity:
    Must not exceed 400cc. Machines with re-bored cylinders must remain within the capacity limit.
    5.2 Engine Specifications:
    a) The crankcase must be from the original road going motorcycle. The manufacturer’s identification marks must be retained, and may be examined to ensure compliance. But may be modified without any further restriction.
    b) Any aftermarket or race piston and ring set may be fitted provided the cylinder remains within the capacity limit.
    c) The original carburettor may be replaced by any brand or type
    6 Modifications permitted:
    Provided all the previous requirements are met and the machine complies with the relevant General Competition Rules, all other items are unrestricted
    6.1 Quick shifters may be used
    6.2 Lap timing and data logging equipment is allowed
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    Cheers broseph.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy View Post
    Who would that be then???????
    tell us how we get around useing a banshee engine when its is a race engine?

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