F3 er 650

[Billy]

lets see these 400 two smokes out on track. more the merrier.....

*** i will moderate my comment though and say it seems suspicious that 4 strokes have to run standard airbox and elements; personally i would like to see the two stokes have to maintain the same standard airbox and element of the road going motorbike.... only fair..... ***

I'm sure the rules will get tweaked again next year to suit the next great thing, or someone else no doubt ..... personally some cost controls would have been nice rather than adapting the rules for what appears to be 2-3 bikes but ohh well....

Some very clever observations there,It is indeed a work in progress,As it always will be,Assuming the two strokes are horrendously fast,Then we remove the restrictions on the Vtwins with the air boxes or the like,Won't really know til the flag drops at Ruapuna for round 1 in Jan.

Nope didn't adapt the rules to suit anybody in particular,Those bikes didnt exist when the superlite rules surrounding multi cylinder 2 strokes was changed.

One things for sure,Superlite's gonna have a widerange of machines on the grid this year,Maybe it will convince the gimp to reappear,I saw him snooping on this site earlier ?????

[neil_cb125t]

Some very clever observations there,It is indeed a work in progress,As it always will be,Assuming the two strokes are horrendously fast,Then we remove the restrictions on the Vtwins with the air boxes or the like,Won't really know til the flag drops at Ruapuna for round 1 in Jan.

Nope didn't adapt the rules to suit anybody in particular,Those bikes didnt exist when the superlite rules surrounding multi cylinder 2 strokes was changed.

One things for sure,Superlite's gonna have a widerange of machines on the grid this year,Maybe it will convince the gimp to reappear,I saw him snooping on this site earlier ?????

Its great that F3 is trying to evolve to maintain its presence in NZ, the 2 stroke rule is great (considering they were talking about putting 250GP bikes in the mix!!) I think 400cc 2 smoke is def very big compared to a 450cc multi 4 stroke...... but then im not building one!!

Removing the Airbox rule on Twins im not sure would be the best idea either......seems the 650s work fine and are a good bence mark and there are plenty of em, changing the ruling on the new 2 strokes IF it was required would make more sence.....Has anyone seen the air box on the ER........ id get nother 10hp out fo mine by ditching it........

I have heard there is a vid of the beast someone online????

[codgyoleracer]

Some very clever observations there,It is indeed a work in progress,As it always will be,Assuming the two strokes are horrendously fast,Then we remove the restrictions on the Vtwins with the air boxes or the like,Won't really know til the flag drops at Ruapuna for round 1 in Jan.

Nope didn't adapt the rules to suit anybody in particular,Those bikes didnt exist when the superlite rules surrounding multi cylinder 2 strokes was changed.

One things for sure,Superlite's gonna have a widerange of machines on the grid this year,Maybe it will convince the gimp to reappear,I saw him snooping on this site earlier ?????

Your not wrong Billy , the new names and variety of bikes for the class this year is looking pretty darn cooool

[macclan]

the class was becoming boring having 2stokes out there will breath some life into to it
we are not allowed to fit them to a gp frames like the 4strokes !!!
rules are there for all and its up to you what bike you want to ride or develop just stop ur whinging toughen up
im one off the guys whos got one of these 400rz bikes its got nothing to do with money its because i love 2strokes
no one moans when i ride my350 lc in f3 so i dont see why you should have a prob with me riding the rz400 in f3 its built to the rules

[neil_cb125t]

the class was becoming boring having 2stokes out there will breath some life into to it
we are not allowed to fit them to a gp frames like the 4strokes !!!
rules are there for all and its up to you what bike you want to ride or develop just stop ur whinging toughen up
im one off the guys whos got one of these 400rz bikes its got nothing to do with money its because i love 2strokes
no one moans when i ride my350 lc in f3 so i dont see why you should have a prob with me riding the rz400 in f3 its built to the rules

Yeah matey - totally agree - i Def hate it when people build something out of the rules and then try and change the rules to suit....if the 2 smokers start to hammer us then maybe they'll let us bore out the 650s to 700cc and 450's multis to 500cc.... now thats a class!!!

Ps do you have a GP frame going for sale

[codgyoleracer]

the class was becoming boring having 2stokes out there will breath some life into to it
we are not allowed to fit them to a gp frames like the 4strokes !!!
rules are there for all and its up to you what bike you want to ride or develop just stop ur whinging toughen up
im one off the guys whos got one of these 400rz bikes its got nothing to do with money its because i love 2strokes
no one moans when i ride my350 lc in f3 so i dont see why you should have a prob with me riding the rz400 in f3 its built to the rules

Your obviously getting bored, lying around the house with hoof in the air.

Thanks for the offer of that awesome back-up bike as well

[macclan]

Yeah matey - totally agree - i Def hate it when people build something out of the rules and then try and change the rules to suit....if the 2 smokers start to hammer us then maybe they'll let us bore out the 650s to 700cc and 450's multis to 500cc.... now thats a class!!!

Ps do you have a GP frame going for sale

sorry all my gp stuff is sold

[macclan]

Your obviously getting bored, lying around the house with hoof in the air.

Thanks for the offer of that awesome back-up bike as well

you know that i might let u do the nats on it glen

[bones1999]

you know that i might let u do the nats on it glen

That should be interesting.

[codgyoleracer]

you know that i might let u do the nats on it glen

Its so light i will hardly even know its in the trailer mate, You can steal it back for the north island and come out and give me an ass whoopin.

[macclan]

Its so light i will hardly even know its in the trailer mate, You can steal it back for the north island and come out and give me an ass whoopin.

i might even do them mysleve glen if i get to grips with it
being an old git many might right me off lol
will see what happens !!!!!

[crazy man]

the class was becoming boring having 2stokes out there will breath some life into to it
we are not allowed to fit them to a gp frames like the 4strokes !!!
rules are there for all and its up to you what bike you want to ride or develop just stop ur whinging toughen up
im one off the guys whos got one of these 400rz bikes its got nothing to do with money its because i love 2strokes
no one moans when i ride my350 lc in f3 so i dont see why you should have a prob with me riding the rz400 in f3 its built to the rules

f1 and f2 are boring f3 was th best class out there untill people that cant ride fast need faster bikes to look any good lmao

[macclan]

f1 and f2 are boring f3 was th best class out there untill people that cant ride fast need faster bikes to look any good lmao

are u saying that i cant ride !!!! i get into the top 5 or 6 in f3 at club level on a 1980 lc 350 !!!!
i dont race to look any good i do it because i enjoy it and hate 4stokes tractors

[crazy man]

are u saying that i cant ride !!!! i get into the top 5 or 6 in f3 at club level on a 1980 lc 350 !!!!
i dont race to look any good i do it because i enjoy it and hate 4stokes tractors

club riders are diffent l could do 1.20s on a stock nc24 with around 40hp 180kgs! and get in 5th most the time years ago. lap record at manfeild on a 250 gp bike in around 1990 was 1 min 9 somthing with a jap rider so l guess with 25 hp more hp and the some weight you should get 107s around there like a f2 bike? .sorry to be a pain just how l feel should of been a 250 with a race frame or a 300 with what your running to be fair . why should the 99% of f3 bikes out there have to change there f3 bikes because there cocked up the cc of the 2 strokes. sorry mate . good luck

[RobGassit]

F3 sounds like it's going to be real interesting machine wise. Personally I currently prefer the Production classes for bums on seats and plenty of racecraft.