Bucket sidecar chassis?

**Gazzza** · 19th September 2012, 20:29

Just throwing this out there but with all the interest at the moment with the chairs I was thinking there might be some people out there who are keen but just have no idea what's involved or were to start... I have built a couple including the one Rick and Henk now have so if anyone would like to know more I'm more than happy for people to pop in and go over the blue rig i have here, it's basically he same design as the yellow rig and also the one Chris and Richie are finishing, or send me an email and I can send through pics. I also have a pretty comprehensive list of parts required and prices.
Hopefully next year will see a real resurgence of the three wheelers.

**Pumba** · 19th September 2012, 20:34

Awesome offer Gazza.

I must say you should feel very proud, as your efforts have given a class that was dead a bloody good shove in the right direction. My bank manager will not thank you, but fuck it you only live once and I certly will

You need to come away to the North Island rounds, as I think I (and probably a few others) owe you a beer or two.

**Henk** · 19th September 2012, 20:55

What is this beer of which you speak?

**Gazzza** · 19th September 2012, 20:55

Thanks Pumba, really appreciate the comments. Just glad to see the interest back in the chairs, I'd love to see a whole grid full like back in the day. If Rick and Henk drag their chair along, and I can find transport, I'm keen to do any away meets as well.
Sorry about the bank manager but I'm sure once you start sliding around the bottom sweeper And try to pass something roughly 3/4's the width of the track it will be worth it

**Pumba** · 19th September 2012, 21:02

Originally Posted by Henk

What is this beer of which you speak?

Well in my personal experience is an alcoholic carbonated fluid and is generally what is consumed immediately once racing for the day has finished, and normally before other tasty alcoholic fluids are brought out.

**Henk** · 19th September 2012, 21:17

Ah right, it's that weak fizzy stuff that acts as a prelude to port.

**Buckets4Me** · 19th September 2012, 22:05

24-2-7 Construction of Sidecars:
Miniature road race sidecars are to be constructed in accordance with the following:
24-2-7-1 Wheel Track:
This shall be minimum of 650mm, maximum 1120mm. The front and rear wheels must
not be more than 70mm out of alignment of a straight line at right angles to the rear axle.
All measurements are taken at wheel centrelines.
24-2-7-2 Wheel Base:
Rear axle centre to front axle centre - min. 1300mm, max. 2000mm.The sidecar wheel
axle shall be between the rear wheel axle and the middle point of the wheelbase.
24-2-7-3 Basic Dimensions:
No part of the construction shall protrude more than 100mm outward from the outside
face of the sidecar tyre. No part of the construction shall protrude more than 550mm
outward from the centre of the rear tyre
Only streamlining and its support brackets shall protrude in front of the front tyre.
There must be a minimum of 75mm ground clearance when the sidecar is loaded with
driver and passenger in normal racing positions and all sumps and petrol, oil and water
tanks, radiators and associated piping must be adequately protected underneath by at least
14g steel or 10g aluminium guards if they come within 90mm of the ground.
24-2-7-4 Streamlining:
No part of the streamlining shall protrude more than 550mm forward from the front of the
front tyre. Care must be taken that the steering is not affected by the fairings. The sidecar
wheel, except for the outside face, shall be adequately covered above deck level.
24-2-7-5 The Steward of the meeting in conjunction with the Machine Examiner, may disqualify
any sidecar from the competition where the construction of the machine is such that it
could prove an unnecessary hazard to other competitors or other persons. This
disqualification may take place despite the fact that the specifications are in every other
respect, within the rules.

**wildman** · 20th September 2012, 02:16

Originally Posted by Pumba

Stop picking on me. It is the courier service that is proving a little slow at the moment

Yep it certainly is, sorry bout the hold up Pumba i'll give him a wind up again this weekend. I'll put you out on my one next month to make up for it.

**Henk** · 20th September 2012, 06:23

Originally Posted by wildman

Yep it certainly is, sorry bout the hold up Pumba i'll give him a wind up again this weekend. I'll put you out on my one next month to make up for it.

From that I gather you have it all going again, from what I've seen in the past couple of days we are looking damn good for four rigs on the line line next month.

**wildman** · 20th September 2012, 19:28

Originally Posted by Henk

From that I gather you have it all going again, from what I've seen in the past couple of days we are looking damn good for four rigs on the line line next month.

It's back together but still has a mind of it's own. We'll be there next meeting, need to give you guys some passing practice for labour weekend. Would be keen to take sidecar to other tracks next year as well. Will need all the practice we can get for racing the big one

**Gazzza** · 20th September 2012, 19:33

The four rigs would include Warren, yes? Has anyone heard from him lately? I only saw the rig briefly as he was passing by, looked bloody impressive, I'm hoping we see more than just a dot on the horizon at the track as he flies past. Would be good to catch up again, haven't seen him for some time.

**crazy man** · 22nd September 2012, 11:22

Originally Posted by Bert

nice. very nice.

quick crazyman; dig it out of the haybarn again and slap in that ziffle or (RGV/TF) engine; there's some racing to be had....

So what are those Lawrence boys building mini LCR or a shorty windle...

This has all the makings of carnage all over again...

l want to give them some chance

**Bert** · 22nd September 2012, 12:14

possible 5 rigs..

its that enough to hold a GP title race??

maybe 16th Feb at minefield???? just planting a seed....

**Henk** · 22nd September 2012, 21:12

I thought it was six for a GP but can't find it in the rule book now, would mean the full license though and I'm not sure how many up here would be prepared to drop $200'per rig for a license for one race.

**Bert** · 23rd September 2012, 07:01

Originally Posted by Henk

I thought it was six for a GP but can't find it in the rule book now, would mean the full license though and I'm not sure how many up here would be prepared to drop $200'per rig for a license for one race.

You might be right actually (6 not 5).

So when it comes down to it; cost of the license is the issue for not actually holding a nz title race???

Maybe a request to MNZ is needed (for running under club license) as this should fall under the fostering and nurturing of motorcycle sports.