Drug busts!

[Subike]

Lots of baby bibs being worn in this thread.

To catch the dribble spewing out of some mouths

[scumdog]

You know when you first found that mad pooch that reacted to sticks being poked at it or stones thrown at it?

And it was fun and you went out of your way to walk past where that mutt was just to throw stones at it and watch it snap and slather?

And then one day it got boring and in the end you just couldn't be buggered bothering with that crazy canine?

Well I've just discovered the on-line equivalent of that dog...

[oneofsix]

You know when you first found that mad pooch that reacted to sticks being poked at it or stones thrown at it?

And it was fun and you went out of your way to walk past where that mutt was just to throw stones at it and watch it snap and slather?

And then one day it got boring and in the end you just couldn't be buggered bothering with that crazy canine?

Well I've just discovered the on-line equivalent of that dog...

They do say that serial killers start out tormenting animals.

[Scuba_Steve]

You know when you first found that mad pooch that reacted to sticks being poked at it or stones thrown at it?

And it was fun and you went out of your way to walk past where that mutt was just to throw stones at it and watch it snap and slather?

And then one day it got boring and in the end you just couldn't be buggered bothering with that crazy canine?

Well I've just discovered the on-line equivalent of that dog...

Was it a lonely time there Scummy, when they stopped coming by & throwing stones at you???
Oh well guess you got yours back when you joined NZ's biggest gang ay, Now the dog's been let out!!! (tho still on a leash)

[caspernz]

How do you figure? I don't know a monkey who can research law, grasp it, then use it for his argument.

He's a clever cunt, he just can't ride for shit judging by the advice he gave some noob.

I know several clever monkeys actually, they all sat down the front of the class for certain subjects...

But you know there's clever and then there's clever, and then there's fellas that are put amongst us for our amusement...

[Horney1]

Thing these people need to get in their heads is drugs are not bad, people are bad....

Wow, lots of strong opinions in this thread! From those that know to those that are fearful of what they think.

Watch and learn ( The Best Marijuana Documentary (Canadian)):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MESZh-_uyUQ

I've made the following observations through my life (IMHO):

• Mj is not addictive
• Mj is not a problem (legal issues aside)
• Mj should be excluded in developmental years (as should alcohol).
• Mj is compatible with normal life, people can operate quite normally after using Mj
• Mj by itself does not lead to harder drugs
• Mj is far far less of a problem for society that either alcohol ot tobacco
• Idiots give Mj a bad rep, you don't hear about the others
• Idiots will always be idiots with or without Mj
• Mj does not cause psyc problems, those people would have those problems anyway.
• Mj is a very good natural medicine
• Pharmaceutical companies have an interest in the Mj game...
• Mj is often supplied by criminal groups, legalising Mj would minimise Mj user contact with those groups
• Mj has been used by many many people including leaders of societies since (probably) soon after man disovered fire.
• It seems cops are very quick to get abnormally very personally and offensively abusive on websites. Is this in defense of of one of the perks of their jobs? One of the easy sides of their jobs? I guess that's the type of person our force targets (or vice versa).

I've also noted that no one mentioned the hundreds of thousands of dollars that the NZ police force spend flying around in helicopters for weeks and weeks at a time. I'd love to be paid to do that! How much does it cost to rent/ run a helicopter for an hour? Surely we could spend that money on something more worthwhile like reducing assaults and theft. (Oh, I suppose that's the dirty/ hard work for the force). Or on having fewer police and more productive members of society (i.e. producing food, making things, cleaning waterways, keeping foreign fishing vessels off our turf etc etc)


Let's not piss around with decriminalising Mj, just legalise it and be done with it! As a society we've wasted () enough time and money "battling" Mj. The government should put the good money to some constructive uses like paying off overseas debt, rebuilding Christchurch, providing decent health care etc so we don't have to live as a third world country..

[SMOKEU]

How much does it cost to rent/ run a helicopter for an hour?

Probably around $200 for a small/medium sized one including the pilot, excluding the cops, so add another $35/hour for each cop on board.

[puddytat]

Probably around $200 for a small/medium sized one including the pilot, excluding the cops, so add another $35/hour for each cop on board.

You need to add another zero if its an Iroquoi.....(I know the spellings not right) Or a 1 in front of the two for a Robertson etc
Supposedly it can cost 2-3 hundy for an ounce,but I bet that every ounce that the Police gets would cost significantly more what with wagons, choppers, wages. Great opportunity to cut Police costs there JK...just buy it.

"•It seems cops are very quick to get abnormally very personally and offensively abusive on websites. Is this in defense of of one of the perks of their jobs? One of the easy sides of their jobs? I guess that's the type of person our force targets (or vice versa)."


Nah bro ,its the uniform

[onearmedbandit]

Probably around $200 for a small/medium sized one including the pilot, excluding the cops, so add another $35/hour for each cop on board.

The medium sized one a car yard I was working at hired to track a $60k sports car cost us $1500/hr.

[Akzle]

• Mj does not cause psyc problems, those people would have those problems anyway.
• Pharmaceutical companies have an interest in the Mj game...
• It seems cops are very quick to get abnormally very personally and offensively abusive on websites.

I've also noted that no one mentioned the hundreds of thousands of dollars that the NZ police force spend flying around in helicopters for weeks and weeks at a time. I'd love to be paid to do that! How much does it cost to rent/ run a helicopter for an hour?

see below for jelly-wobbler cost.

i've left everything in your list that i DISAGREE with. i'm not going to expand on it. you're entitled to an opinion, even if you're wrong.
except FJ.
he's not entitled to an opinion.

cos he full-retard.

Probably around $200 for a small/medium sized one including the pilot,

uhh. more like 4000$/hour for the twin squirrel., by the time you factor in fifty-hour maintenance and everything else involved in keeping a whirly-bird birdly-whirling. (try saying that ten times really fast).
no shit. choppers are expen$ive.

[FJRider]

I've made the following observations through my life (IMHO):

My answer.

*Mj is not addictive
How many years have you smoked it ... ???

*Mj is not a problem (legal issues aside)
Not a problem to you ... or anybody you know ... you mean ... ???

*Mj should be excluded in developmental years (as should alcohol).
It is excluded now. As is alcohol. (alchol is legal over 18)

*Mj is compatible with normal life, people can operate quite normally after using Mj
Perception of normality changes with it's regular use.

*Mj by itself does not lead to harder drugs
Human nature in some, wanting stronger drugs ... doesn't make it ok to use Mj though.

*Mj is far far less of a problem for society that either alcohol ot tobacco
Only when the full extent of it's use now with effective testing ... will show how much of a problem exists.

*Idiots give Mj a bad rep, you don't hear about the others
Thats all we need ... bigger and bigger idiots ... that dont even know they're idiots. Look at Akzle for instance.

*Idiots will always be idiots with or without Mj
So you know Akzle.

*Mj does not cause psyc problems, those people would have those problems anyway.
Cause, maybe not .. but adds to .... certainly.

*Mj is a very good natural medicine
So good it's illegal .... just because it's natural, doesn't make it good.

*Pharmaceutical companies have an interest in the Mj game...
And the reason is $$$$$

*Mj is often supplied by criminal groups, legalising Mj would minimise Mj user contact with those groups
That contact is half the fun of smoking it ... meeting all those hardened criminals.

*Mj has been used by many many people including leaders of societies since (probably) soon after man disovered fire.
It still doesn't make it legal.

*It seems cops are very quick to get abnormally very personally and offensively abusive on websites. Is this in defense of of one of the perks of their jobs? One of the easy sides of their jobs? I guess that's the type of person our force targets (or vice versa).
Perhaps ... because you, and they know ... it is an illegal activity. Their personal opinion on the drug doesn't make it any less legal.

I've also noted that no one mentioned the hundreds of thousands of dollars that the NZ police force spend flying around in helicopters for weeks and weeks at a time. I'd love to be paid to do that! How much does it cost to rent/ run a helicopter for an hour? Surely we could spend that money on something more worthwhile like reducing assaults and theft. (Oh, I suppose that's the dirty/ hard work for the force). Or on having fewer police and more productive members of society (i.e. producing food, making things, cleaning waterways, keeping foreign fishing vessels off our turf etc etc)

Think more of all that money put into the local economy ... and the benefit that money gave/gives ... to that local economy.

Let's not piss around with decriminalising Mj, just legalise it and be done with it! As a society we've wasted () enough time and money "battling" Mj. The government should put the good money to some constructive uses like paying off overseas debt, rebuilding Christchurch, providing decent health care etc so we don't have to live as a third world country..

If people stopped growing it, and paid all the Goverment tax and fee's required now ... more money would be available for pubilc benefit. (or "wasted" on something else)
I very much doubt if the police/goverment battle against drug use, has in any way affected the funding of the Christchurch re-build.

[ducatilover]

whirly-bird birdly-whirling. (try saying that ten times really fast).

That's quite difficult, I think my career as a rapper just failed. Or is that rapist? Wait, I don't know.

MJ is devil hair, ya'll gonna die smoking that shit.

[Madness]

My answer.
My response to your answer. I've borrowed Akzle's green seeing as I know how much you love it.

*Mj is not addictive
How many years have you smoked it ... ???
How is that a relevant question?

*Mj is not a problem (legal issues aside)
Not a problem to you ... or anybody you know ... you mean ... ???
The only problems associated with marijuana use are due to its legal status.

*Mj should be excluded in developmental years (as should alcohol).
It is excluded now. As is alcohol. (alchol is legal over 18)
And should be continued to be excluded following legalisation.

*Mj is compatible with normal life, people can operate quite normally after using Mj
Perception of normality changes with it's regular use.
And you say this after how many years of your own personal use?

*Mj by itself does not lead to harder drugs
Human nature in some, wanting stronger drugs ... doesn't make it ok to use Mj though.
Watch the video Horney1 linked to. The only link between Marijuana & harder drugs comes about as a result of its legal status.

*Mj is far far less of a problem for society that either alcohol ot tobacco
Only when the full extent of it's use now with effective testing ... will show how much of a problem exists.
Again, watch the video. There are opinions included from people far more qualified than yourself on this matter.

*Idiots give Mj a bad rep, you don't hear about the others
Thats all we need ... bigger and bigger idiots ... that dont even know they're idiots.
We know you're an idiot. Your posts on this subject just reinforce this.

*Idiots will always be idiots with or without Mj
See above.
See above.

*Mj does not cause psyc problems, those people would have those problems anyway.
Cause, maybe not .. but adds to .... certainly.
Just as alcohol does?

*Mj is a very good natural medicine
So good it's illegal .... just because it's natural, doesn't make it good.
Watch the video.

*Pharmaceutical companies have an interest in the Mj game...
And the reason is $$$$$
The pharmaceutical industry stands to lose billions, rather than make a single dollar from legalisation.

*Mj is often supplied by criminal groups, legalising Mj would minimise Mj user contact with those groups
That contact is half the fun of smoking it ... meeting all those hardened criminals.
Whatever turns you on. (See what I did there?)

*Mj has been used by many many people including leaders of societies since (probably) soon after man disovered fire.
It still doesn't make it legal.
No, only a change in Law will make it legal

*It seems cops are very quick to get abnormally very personally and offensively abusive on websites. Is this in defense of of one of the perks of their jobs? One of the easy sides of their jobs? I guess that's the type of person our force targets (or vice versa).
Perhaps ... because you, and they know ... it is an illegal activity. Their personal opinion on the drug doesn't make it any less legal.
Perhaps it's because they can see the hypocrisy in the current situation & struggle to maintain the official line without becoming unduly personally offensive & abusive?

Think more of all that money put into the local economy ... and the benefit that money gave/gives ... to that local economy.
Think of the millions of dollars that's going into the pockets of Marijuana growers & sellers that if legalised would go into legitimate business & the improvement of the lives of the under-priveliged. This would far exceed the benefits generated from hiring the odd helicopter, if that's what you meant?

If people stopped growing it, and paid all the Goverment tax and fee's required now ... more money would be available for pubilc benefit. (or "wasted" on something else)
I very much doubt if the police/goverment battle against drug use, has in any way affected the funding of the Christchurch re-build.
Think of how many additional police hours could be spent on issues like family violence, burglary & anti-social behaviour if Marijuana were legalised.

Seriously people, watch the video. Thanks Horney1 for posting it.

[FJRider]

"Originally re-posted by Madness"

My answer.

*Mj is not addictive
How many years have you smoked it ... ???
How is that a relevant question?
It could be ... regular smoking over a number of years could be interpreted as it being addictive.

*Mj is not a problem (legal issues aside)
Not a problem to you ... or anybody you know ... you mean ... ???
The only problems associated with marijuana use are due to its legal status.
That you are aware of.

*Mj should be excluded in developmental years (as should alcohol).
It is excluded now. As is alcohol. (alchol is legal over 18)
And should be continued to be excluded following legalisation.
It is now, and will continue to be. It's illegal.

*Mj is compatible with normal life, people can operate quite normally after using Mj
Perception of normality changes with it's regular use.
And you say this after how many years of your own personal use?
I dont smoke. Is it your perception it's normal ... ???

*Mj by itself does not lead to harder drugs
Human nature in some, wanting stronger drugs ... doesn't make it ok to use Mj though.
Watch the video Horney1 linked to. The only link between Marijuana & harder drugs comes about as a result of its legal status.
No need to watch. It's illegal to use the drug in this country. NO VIDEO will change that anytime soon.

*Mj is far far less of a problem for society that either alcohol ot tobacco
Only when the full extent of it's use now with effective testing ... will show how much of a problem exists.
Again, watch the video. There are opinions included from people far more qualified than yourself on this matter.
It's still illegal. An opinion of a doctor or myself will not change that anytime soon.

*Idiots give Mj a bad rep, you don't hear about the others
Thats all we need ... bigger and bigger idiots ... that dont even know they're idiots.
We know you're an idiot. Your posts on this subject just reinforce this.
You are entitled to you opinion. That wont make the drug legal.

*Idiots will always be idiots with or without Mj
See above.

SEE ABOVE

*Mj does not cause psyc problems, those people would have those problems anyway.
Cause, maybe not .. but adds to .... certainly.
Just as alcohol does?
IT is legal. And those that have serious alcohol issues can be forbidden to use that too.

*Mj is a very good natural medicine
So good it's illegal .... just because it's natural, doesn't make it good.
Watch the video.
Nah. No point. The drug is illegal, I dont use it. Nor do I intend to in the future. Regardless of it's legality.

*Pharmaceutical companies have an interest in the Mj game...
And the reason is $$$$$
The pharmaceutical industry stands to lose billions, rather than make a single dollar from legalisation.
Swings and roundabouts ... lose money here, gain money there. Such is big business.

*Mj is often supplied by criminal groups, legalising Mj would minimise Mj user contact with those groups
That contact is half the fun of smoking it ... meeting all those hardened criminals.
Whatever turns you on. (See what I did there?)
Nah ... must be the dope (see what I did there ?)

*Mj has been used by many many people including leaders of societies since (probably) soon after man disovered fire.
It still doesn't make it legal.
No, only a change in Law will make it legal
Funny that. But for now ... IT"S ILLEGAL.

*It seems cops are very quick to get abnormally very personally and offensively abusive on websites. Is this in defense of of one of the perks of their jobs? One of the easy sides of their jobs? I guess that's the type of person our force targets (or vice versa).
Perhaps ... because you, and they know ... it is an illegal activity. Their personal opinion on the drug doesn't make it any less legal.
Perhaps it's because they can see the hypocrisy in the current situation & struggle to maintain the official line without becoming unduly personally offensive & abusive?
Perhaps ... but that is included in their personal opinions ... and their personal choices ... THEY choose to make.

Think more of all that money put into the local economy ... and the benefit that money gave/gives ... to that local economy.
Think of the millions of dollars that's going into the pockets of Marijuana growers & sellers that if legalised would go into legitimate business & the improvement of the lives of the under-priveliged. This would far exceed the benefits generated from hiring the odd helicopter, if that's what you meant?
Even THOSE millions of $$$ are fed into the local economy ... the Bro's gotta spend ... eh ... !!!

If people stopped growing it, and paid all the Goverment tax and fee's required now ... more money would be available for pubilc benefit. (or "wasted" on something else)
I very much doubt if the police/goverment battle against drug use, has in any way affected the funding of the Christchurch re-build.
Think of how many additional police hours could be spent on issues like family violence, burglary & anti-social behaviour if Marijuana were legalised.
If Marijuana was legalised ... maybe ... more hours WOULD be needed.

[Madness]

Narrow-minded people such as FJ will continue to buy into the ridiculous situation that is the illegality of a naturally occuring plant. Oh well, no suprises there. No point in replying to his above post, his narrow minded post doesn't warrant a reply.

I did watch the video and learned a few things from doing so. For example, I never knew that Heroin was invented by pharmaceutical giant Bayer. The video also showed an interview with a MS sufferer and the impact that a samll amount of Marijuana ingestion had on him was astounding.