Drug busts!

[avgas]

I love the fact that the Police have to waste time explaining why they take drugs of the streets and then all the druggies complain they are wasting their time taking drugs off the streets.

I used to be an addict. Everyone has their poison. I am still an addict, I just changed my poison. Better or worse - who knows and who cares?

But making trivial topics about how police spend their time isn't exactly going to save them more time is it?

[Akzle]

As you have stated on plenty of occasions ... you are not part of, nor wish to be part of ... "OUR" society. Therefore it is none of your business, what "OUR" police do with "OUR" taxpayers money.

If you claim that you have (reluctantly) paid anything in the way of a tax of any type to "OUR" Goverment .... that is the admission you ARE indeed part of "OUR" society. Thus subject to it's rules.

um. go away.
my point here is that y'all should be incensed at the frivolous waste, on the sweat of your back, occuring.

That won't work at all. It is an addictive recreational drug

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It isn't addictive but it is habit forming, not chemically but mentally addictive.

Growing tobacco would be a minor issue nowadays as fewer and fewer are smoking, and it's not causing the mayhem that alcohol and drugs are, by a long shot. I would suspect that such would be a side issue for Police who may act if they come across it but not worth pursuing it generally.

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Had to think about that. You're right, it is legal to grow tobaco, but not to sell it.

never underestimate the power of ignorance or denial.


i was doing the sums this morning, and it comes to 27 and a half mil in WAGES alone.
now factor in fuel and registration for the holdens for six months, (6 cops*184 / 2 (cops per car)) = 110k$

RT=27 710 000$
plus office supplies, coffee and donuts, another 20k$

i'm not sure what crown lawyers are paid, but i'm fair certain that all these 184 will not be forking out for their own, that's 184 "legal aid" lawyers at 200$/hr. rough enough 80 hours per case, 2.9 mil,

RT=30 650 000$
probably twice that for the cop's lawyers.

RT=36 538 000$

plus the judges to sit though it, say 100k$ salary, 3 days actual court time/case for them (assuming none of them are smart enough to get out of it), 151k$

RT=36 689 000$

plus paralegals, stenographers, bailiffs, electricity to light up the court room and run their number crunching machines, lets say 100k$

so we're looking at close to 37 million, with what i'd rank as fairly conservative numbers, and that's before any of these "criminals" have to spend time in (tax payer funded) prison/remand/custody.

good fucking deal.

that's like... another 3 teachers in every school (touted cost 43 mil)
or pulling the rug from under cripples (disability allowance, 37mil)
or cutting off student loans by 6 odd percent (7.4% decrease = 47million)
or halving job subsides (29 million)
or fucking leaky home owners (34 mil)
or cutting housing NZ funding (16mil/year)

good fucking deal.


and i must laugh at the cop's/media's posted value of the dope. the last guy, down rotorua, they say he had X-million growing in his shed. i worked out the sums on that one too, his "shed" would have had to have been about 200m^2, and he'd have had to pulled 2 pounds of dope off each plant to make their numbers work.

safer communities together

[Akzle]

Mate, i fixed the problem. I put the gimp you quoted (who's quote i cant see, but im sure its braindead) & another couple of drug fucked morons on my ignore list a few weeks back, because frankly, they talk a load of bollocks.
"Dope, making dumbasses feel smart since ages ago"
Oh, & another side bonus, their red bling dosent show up on your page once you ignore them.

a shame that doesn't stop you from being a cock.

[FJRider]

um. go away.
my point here is that y'all should be incensed at the frivolous waste, on the sweat of your back, occuring.

I think you have no need to concern yourself with "the sweat of my back" ... I'm not concerned about their spending ... or what you think.

And think I you need to take a shit.

Because you're obviously full of it ...

[flyingcrocodile46]

plus the judges to sit though it, say 100k$ salary,

......

[Road kill]

I have a slightly different take on this than the average pot head does.
First off,I don't really care if people want to make their lives more bareable by either smoking weed or getting shit faced on booze.
But I also don't mind in the lest seeing old names getting busted and being taken off the streets.
One name in particular came up this week,,one willie wong tung,30 year monkey mob member.
Numerous convictions for violence,drug dealing,car and motorcycle thefts,rape and a few others I can't recall.
It's been a long time ago I had any contact with the shit head so I haven't kept up with what he's been up to since then,but yeah I remember him well.
Anyway his latest great idea was to use whanau ora funds to buy 3lbs of weed.
Got busted on the cook straight ferry while transporting it to the south island.
Then there were the two busted with a house and several sheds FULL of weed out at Whatawhata this week,,,not totaly sure yet,but I think I know both those arsewipes as well.
So the cops have taken them out of the loop,,,if any of you had met these people you'd also agree it was a bloody good thing.
You think the weed laws had anything to do with how these people live their lives,,forget it.
If weed was legal these scum would just be doing something else illegal to make money.
And by the way,,who ever bought it up,the police are doing well in their war with P.
Currently supplies are at an all time low in AK and "some people" are finding it so hard to find they have pushed the price of a point up to $120+.
Quite frankly if the weed laws take even one willie fucking wong tung off our streets,I don't care how much it costs.

[mashman]

Being tired changes your physical and mental state. Gambling is more addictive than cannabis and changes your physical and mental state. Exercise is more addictive than cannabis and changes your physical and mental state. Excessive hygiene is more addictive than cannabis and changes your physical and mental state. Getting the picture yet? THC is naturally found in the body along with other cannabis related compounds. What's your natural level for health and well being? or are you still as dumb as fuck? I'm betting on the latter.

[flyingcrocodile46]

Being tired changes your physical and mental state. Gambling is more addictive than cannabis and changes your physical and mental state. Exercise is more addictive than cannabis and changes your physical and mental state. Excessive hygiene is more addictive than cannabis and changes your physical and mental state. Getting the picture yet? THC is naturally found in the body along with other cannabis related compounds. What's your natural level for health and well being? or are you still as dumb as fuck? I'm betting on the latter.

15 to 18% is about the right strength with a doseage of around .33grm 3 to 5 times a day

[onearmedbandit]

Mate, i fixed the problem. I put the gimp you quoted (who's quote i cant see, but im sure its braindead) & another couple of drug fucked morons on my ignore list a few weeks back, because frankly, they talk a load of bollocks.
"Dope, making dumbasses feel smart since ages ago"
Oh, & another side bonus, their red bling dosent show up on your page once you ignore them.

Still got those blinkers on sb? Oh well I guess they stop you from having to admit you're not always right.

[nzspokes]

Our neighbors in an old place got hit by the cops at 6 one saturday morning. Cops came saw us a little later and told us to leave for the day, nicely of course. Our neighbors had a P lab going on and growing weed. It stuffed the house, cost thousands to fix for the landlord. We never knew a thing.

I guess Akzle will think that was a breach of the crims rights.....

[marmel]

How often does this argument come up on various forums across the web, heaps.

It also generally starts with some ill-informed internet hero blaming the cops for enforcing the law.

I think most people with a bit of common sense know cops don't make up the law, governments do. If you want to blame someone for cannabis laws, blame everyone, we vote in the governments that make these laws.

Cops don't have a choice of which laws they enforce, they are expected to uphold all laws because thats what their job is.

It's too hard though to blame everyone if you don't like a particular law or to get off your ass and do something about it, it's much easier to sit at home on the net blaming a select, highly visible group.

I think you would be suprised at the number of cops who would support some form of decriminalisation as 99% off the assholes they deal with are pissed, not stoned. Alcohol is by far the most abused drug in NZ and by far causes the most problems, hence the push to tighten up liquor laws over recent times.

Personally I think a system similar to the UK with a fine can be issued for a bit of percy would be a good idea.

[SMOKEU]

Motorcycles are far more dangerous than cannabis will ever be. There have been several KB members over the years (I'm not going to refer to any specific incidents) who have tragically died as a direct result from injuries sustained from motorcycle accidents. How many people have died as a direct cause from smoking cannabis, in the whole world, ever? ZERO. Several other KB members have sustained severe, permanent, life changing injuries also as a direct result from motorcycle crashes.

It seems rather hypocritical that many of you seem to be so against cannabis, when you yourselves indulge in a far more dangerous activity. It seems selfish that you choose to ride a bike when many of you have a loving family who depend on you and your good health. How do you think your family would feel if you died from a bike crash, all because of your stupidly dangerous hobby? Is it really fair for your parents/spouse/kids to have to take the risk that your next ride may be your last? We have cars, which are a far safer alternative to 2 wheeled transport. It doesn't matter how good a rider you are, but you still have to factor in other road users and their stupidity.

Many motorcycles these days are ridiculously over powered for public roads, and there is no need to have a machine that can do the legal open road speed limit in first gear, "just for fun". So think about that before you judge pot smokers, and the "dangers" associated with it.

By the way, I'm NOT anti bike, and I don't have a car. I have a 1973 TS185 and a 1998 GSXR600 as I love riding and I wish to keep riding for as long as I can.

[marmel]

Motorcycles are far more dangerous than cannabis will ever be. There have been several KB members over the years (I'm not going to refer to any specific incidents) who have tragically died as a direct result from injuries sustained from motorcycle accidents. How many people have died as a direct cause from smoking cannabis, in the whole world, ever? ZERO. Several other KB members have sustained severe, permanent, life changing injuries also as a direct result from motorcycle crashes.

It seems rather hypocritical that many of you seem to be so against cannabis, when you yourselves indulge in a far more dangerous activity. It seems selfish that you choose to ride a bike when many of you have a loving family who depend on you and your good health. How do you think your family would feel if you died from a bike crash, all because of your stupidly dangerous hobby? Is it really fair for your parents/spouse/kids to have to take the risk that your next ride may be your last? We have cars, which are a far safer alternative to 2 wheeled transport. It doesn't matter how good a rider you are, but you still have to factor in other road users and their stupidity.

Many motorcycles these days are ridiculously over powered for public roads, and there is no need to have a machine that can do the legal open road speed limit in first gear, "just for fun". So think about that before you judge pot smokers, and the "dangers" associated with it.

By the way, I'm NOT anti bike, and I don't have a car. I have a 1973 TS185 and a 1998 GSXR600 as I love riding and I wish to keep riding for as long as I can.

Some good points there.

However there would have been quite a lot of people that have died as a result of smoking cannabis AND trying to operate a car/bike etc at the same time.

Just have a look at the findings that come out of coroners inquests time and time again, quite often alcohol is involved as well but cannabis does alter your reaction times/judgment. There was a finding released over the last week, i think it was on the stuff website, in relation to the death of a guy up north riding his mates v-rod after smoking a joint. Didn't have a full bike licence either or a helmet but the level of THC in his blood would have definately affected his riding ability and decision making.

Thats why I think a middle ground would be a reasonable solution where some forms of control are still in place to prevent people getting stoned and driving/going to work operating machinery etc.

Like I said though cannabis was made illegal by the government many, many years ago now and subsequent governments voted in by a democratic process haven't seen fit to change that law.

[SMOKEU]

So pretty much what I was saying in my previous rant is TAKE A GOOD FUCKING LOOK AT YOURSELF BEFORE YOU JUDGE OTHERS. That's all I ask.

[flyingcrocodile46]

Motorcycles are far more dangerous than cannabis will ever be. There have been several KB members over the years (I'm not going to refer to any specific incidents) who have tragically died as a direct result from injuries sustained from motorcycle accidents. How many people have died as a direct cause from smoking cannabis, in the whole world, ever? ZERO. Several other KB members have sustained severe, permanent, life changing injuries also as a direct result from motorcycle crashes.

It seems rather hypocritical that many of you seem to be so against cannabis, when you yourselves indulge in a far more dangerous activity. It seems selfish that you choose to ride a bike when many of you have a loving family who depend on you and your good health. How do you think your family would feel if you died from a bike crash, all because of your stupidly dangerous hobby? Is it really fair for your parents/spouse/kids to have to take the risk that your next ride may be your last? We have cars, which are a far safer alternative to 2 wheeled transport. It doesn't matter how good a rider you are, but you still have to factor in other road users and their stupidity.

Many motorcycles these days are ridiculously over powered for public roads, and there is no need to have a machine that can do the legal open road speed limit in first gear, "just for fun". So think about that before you judge pot smokers, and the "dangers" associated with it.

By the way, I'm NOT anti bike, and I don't have a car. I have a 1973 TS185 and a 1998 GSXR600 as I love riding and I wish to keep riding for as long as I can.

That might be the best post I have seen you put together.