Drug busts!

[Scuba_Steve]

I beginning to think that all these weed threads should be merged just as waving threads are. The arguments never change, the reasons for and against never change, and never in the history of the internet has someone from either staunch supporters camp posted 'You know what, you have a very valid point there, I've changed my opinion solely based on what you said and now side fully with you.'

You know what, you have a very valid point there, I've changed my opinion solely based on what you said and now side fully with you.

One of the reasons that the kiwi police are well respected on world terms is that their history is to be independant from government which in theory means there is less corruption.

funny thing is NZ is one of the lest corrupt countries in the world, but heading up top place in the corruption list... Surprisingly (or maybee not???) it's not politicians or even lawyers, it's the NZ police take gold on the corruption list for NZ (tho the silver & bronze winners ain't far behind)

[nodrog:Me]

Double rainbow all the way!

[mashman]

Drugs Bust... she's doing it right

[Drew]

Hehehehehehehe, I used to be able to troll well enough to insite this sorta thread.

Oh how I miss the days of my youth.

[Akzle]

Our neighbors in an old place got hit by the cops at 6 ...
I guess Akzle will think that was a breach of the crims rights.....

i don't follow your logic.
whut?

i'm not endorsing P, or it's manufacture of use.
if the good pre-cursors were still available, cooking crystal meth can be done a lot easier and with less toxicity than is currently required.
i also do not endorse damaging landlord's property with said P manufacture.

It also generally starts with some ill-informed internet hero blaming the cops for enforcing the law.

i'm not blaming the cops. i'm drawing the parallels between funding to enforce anti-cannabis policy and funding for useful things, like housing and education.

I did a "bit of a google" on him ... I

way too much time on your hands. but yep, that's me. i'm also on PSB forums (not much) and have a few other things around the internets, also the world freeman society's former webpage which i think is now redundant and i dun get on it any more.
search also for robbo akzle, or rob akerman. then go jack off about how clever you are.
but sersly. it's pretty pathetic that you'd spend that time on me. i'm flattered, though.

whanagarei terenga paraoa is an old maori name for this district, before the scotish came in and "civilised up the maarees" there have been several take-and-retakes of this area, particularly whangarei heads. the name has something to do with whales. google that

They could if they decided not to enforce the law. Yes that does not mean the law has actually been changed... but if it isn't used by those who enforce the law, then technically the law has been changed iykwim.

fortunately, the policing act 2008, which dictates how those gainfully employed must enforce the law, does NOT state that they must "enforce legislation" merely "maintain the law" now, if we refer this to COMMON law, that is, law that has the universal assent of THE PEOPLE, then cops are well within their legislated rights to not enforce cannabis policy. similarly, the same act states that NOTHING imposes ANY DUTY on, (or gives particular powers to) the police...
also, if every jury standing in cannabis trials got into some jury nullification, we (the people and police) could probably see that particular law overturned in short order.
as it is. meh.

and as far as whining on internet forums, i (and some hundreds-thousands of others) also regularly take part in J day. i forget which day of the year it is, so i do it often, just to make sure i don't miss it.

[Subike]

I don't think very many people on her know the difference between ""common"" law and ""corporate"" law.

It would be interesting to see how many do.

The maharajah laws are under the corporate banner .

[scumdog]

Great, ANOTHER pointless KB rant thread to ignore, classic KB fare...

[FJRider]

Great, ANOTHER pointless KB rant thread to ignore, classic KB fare...

Posts in R & R don't even add to your post count ...

[marmel]

You know what, you have a very valid point there, I've changed my opinion solely based on what you said and now side fully with you.



funny thing is NZ is one of the lest corrupt countries in the world, but heading up top place in the corruption list... Surprisingly (or maybee not???) it's not politicians or even lawyers, it's the NZ police take gold on the corruption list for NZ (tho the silver & bronze winners ain't far behind)

According to who??? Cases, links, post up what you know.

[FJRider]

fortunately, the policing act 2008, which dictates how those gainfully employed must enforce the law, does NOT state that they must "enforce legislation" merely "maintain the law" now,

While some specific issues relating to Police powers could be addressed in the Police Act rewrite, the broader point is ... that most powers exercised by police are conferred by legislation other than the Police Act.

And google Police discretion ...

if we refer this to COMMON law, that is, law that has the universal assent of THE PEOPLE, then cops are well within their legislated rights to not enforce cannabis policy. similarly, the same act states that NOTHING imposes ANY DUTY on, (or gives particular powers to) the police...
also, if every jury standing in cannabis trials got into some jury nullification, we (the people and police) could probably see that particular law overturned in short order.
as it is. meh.

From Wiki ...

Common law (also known as case law or precedent) is law developed by judges through decisions of courts and similar tribunals (as opposed to legislative statutes or executive branch action).[1]

A "common law system" is a legal system that gives great precedential weight to common law,[2] on the principle that it is unfair to treat similar facts differently on different occasions.[3] The body of precedent is called "common law" and it binds future decisions. In cases where the parties disagree on what the law is, a common law court looks to past precedential decisions of relevant courts. If a similar dispute has been resolved in the past, the court is bound to follow the reasoning used in the prior decision (this principle is known as stare decisis). If, however, the court finds that the current dispute is fundamentally distinct from all previous cases (called a "matter of first impression"), judges have the authority and duty to make law by creating precedent.[4] Thereafter, the new decision becomes precedent, and will bind future courts.

No mention of "Universal public assent" being part of Common Law... it is based on fairness, and precedents already previously set ... and resolved in the past.

It is on that basis of fairness ... Police have the element of discretion to pursue charges (or not) on minor offences involving drugs. Depending on the class of drugs and the scale of the offence. And the actions and attitude of those involved at the time.

Also ... I can't recall any drugs trials (involving drug use/posession ... alone) involving a jury. Can you provide a link to one that has ... ???

and as far as whining on internet forums, i (and some hundreds-thousands of others) also regularly take part in J day. i forget which day of the year it is, so i do it often, just to make sure i don't miss it.

You hardcore law-breaker you ...

[Scuba_Steve]

According to who??? Cases, links, post up what you know.

Sorry my bad, it's not absolute (guess it's hard to know corruption for sure) it's perceived corruption on the CPI (Corruption perception Index) http://cpi.transparency.org

[Drew]

Oh it's a website, it must be true.

You fuckin idiot Scuba Steve! Perceived levels? I perceive you to have an IQ of about 3, that is 100% of the focus group surveyed so it must be true.

[Scuba_Steve]

Oh it's a website, it must be true.

You fuckin idiot Scuba Steve! Perceived levels? I perceive you to have an IQ of about 3, that is 100% of the focus group surveyed so it must be true.

[Drew]

Bitches be trippin.

[Akzle]

While some specific issues relating to Police powers could be addressed in the Police Act rewrite...

...From Wiki ...

fuck. it's on wikipedia. must be true.

you truly are an ass.

grab a LAW DICTIONARY, (that's the thick book by what they wrote "the law") and look up the word COMMON

legal precedent is called CASE law.

fuck. it's on google. must be true.

again, you are an ass.