Drug busts!

[blue rider]

[Akzle]

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-57487324-504083/vt-man-accused-of-crushing-cop-cars-with-tractor-gets-$50k-bail/

oh but another reason as to why they shouldn't be enforcing that policy...
LEGEND

(US cop shops are fitted with bullet proof glass... howsat)

[avgas]

why oh why, do doctors get to prescribe pretty much the same drugs in the name of medicine?

I am guessing it has something to with the letters PHD.
What letters do you have after you name?

Not saying they are gods gift to the world. But you have to give them acknowledgement for going out there and getting those letters. It's not an easy thing to do.

[scumdog]

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-57487324-504083/vt-man-accused-of-crushing-cop-cars-with-tractor-gets-$50k-bail/

oh but another reason as to why they shouldn't be enforcing that policy...
LEGEND

(US cop shops are fitted with bullet proof glass... howsat)

Nah, somethings wrong, can't be right, stoners are so laid back and peaceful....

[mashman]

Nah, somethings wrong, can't be right, stoners are so laid back and peaceful....

Unless they're itchin for a fix coz de coppas have busted their dealer... then they're absolutely psychotic

[Akzle]

I am guessing it has something to with the letters PHD.
What letters do you have after you name?

Not saying they are gods gift to the world. But you have to give them acknowledgement for going out there and getting those letters. It's not an easy thing to do.

people put all sorts of letters after my name. i like the ones i-s- a-w-e-s-o-m-e.

but soooooo fkn what. i can spill long words with the best of em, i can shoot crack with the best of em, too.
i thinks the point was, if these drugs have therapeutic benefit, can not (should not) adults be allowed enjoy the benefit recreationally?

[flyingcrocodile46]

people put all sorts of letters after my name. i like the ones i-s- a-w-e-s-o-m-e.

but soooooo fkn what. i can spill long words with the best of em, i can shoot crack with the best of em, too.
i thinks the point was, if these drugs have therapeutic benefit, can not (should not) adults be allowed enjoy the benefit recreationally?

Not when an individuals selfish indulgence jeopardises the health and welfare of others (incl family). Fact of the matter is that many people have no discipline or self control and their selfishness and weakness sees other people suffer, so hence why society needs to intervene. Do you understand and agree with this point?

When it comes to using P," the best of them" are still losers who will ultimately inflict suffering of some sort on other people. So excuse me if I consider your seemingly proud association with such self indulgent wankers as an indication of the weight (or lack thereof) which I might attribute to your opinions.

[Drew]

When it comes to using P," the best of them" are still losers who will ultimately inflict suffering of some sort on other people. So excuse me if I consider your seemingly proud association with such self indulgent wankers as an indication of the weight (or lack thereof) which I might attribute to your opinions.

Spoken by someone who has swallowed whole, the tripe that anyone using p is a psyco with no control over it's usage.

You can spout whatever you want about it, but you would be very surprised at some of the people who use a class drugs recreationally, without any adverse effects.

Some drugs are more commonly detrimental than others, and it can't really be made legal to have them around. I accept this, but I do it from a position you can't understand.

[nzspokes]

people put all sorts of letters after my name. i like the ones i-s- a-w-e-s-o-m-e.

but soooooo fkn what. i can spill long words with the best of em, i can shoot crack with the best of em, too.
i thinks the point was, if these drugs have therapeutic benefit, can not (should not) adults be allowed enjoy the benefit recreationally?

Because some of those that do are self medicating. Probably some depression with some Cluster C border line personality disorders and OCD just for fun.

Of course that could never go wrong. They would never self harm or suicide. Just ask the A&E departments at hospitals around the country. No they never see that.

Of course I have no would nothing of such things.

[Akzle]

Of course that could never go wrong. They would never self harm or suicide. Just ask the A&E departments at hospitals around the country. No they never see that.

then let them. DNR.
and as smokey said, you'd probably be surprised at the higher-ups who recreationally use class A controlled substances with no adverse affect on society, family, their bank accounts or their quality of life or need for state medical attention.

Not when an individuals selfish indulgence jeopardises the health and welfare of others (incl family). Fact of the matter is that many people have no discipline or self control and their selfishness and weakness sees other people suffer, so hence why society needs to intervene. Do you understand and agree with this point?

When it comes to using P," the best of them" are still losers who will ultimately inflict suffering of some sort on other people. So excuse me if I consider your seemingly proud association with such self indulgent wankers as an indication of the weight (or lack thereof) which I might attribute to your opinions.

good answer.

but P is amphetamine. amphetamine is prescribed and used daily for people with mental disorders, has been for decades.
in this case it's the cost/availability and quality of the drug that is a problem moreso than the actual drug. if these "P addicts" could get their fix from pharmac for 5$ a time, could drop a tab at home instead of smoking it off a bit of tinfoil hiding behind the corner dairy, i daresay society's problems would be much reduced.
gangs in OZ have tightened up on P, because it creates 5-year customers, that's the average time it takes for a modern day P user to fuck up/die/ run out of money. they prefer heroin (=morphine) as it creates 20+ year clients.
and i was referring to crack-heroin or crack-cocaine, not so much crack-meth. but i'd give it a nudge.

but you say i'm proud and self indulgent for taking drugs? i keep house, keep kids, keep appointments, keep a garden etc etc. my hobbies are not costing your society anything, so how so?

pray, do you indulge in drink? tobacco? good food? nice car? at what social cost? are there hungry kids in your street? do they get to school without shoes? why don't you forfeit your luxury for their (part of your society eh?) benefit?

and also. while well and good for a community to intervene in it's member's health, the govt-created "society", i feel, has no place interfering in anyones life, if not FOR THAT INDIVIDUAL'S benefit.

[flyingcrocodile46]

Spoken by someone who has swallowed whole, the tripe that anyone using p is a psyco with no control over it's usage..

Wrong. My observations and conclusions are based entirely in personal observations and experience.

You can spout whatever you want about it, but you would be very surprised at some of the people who use a class drugs recreationally, without any adverse effects..

No I wouldn't

Some drugs are more commonly detrimental than others, and it can't really be made legal to have them around. I accept this, but I do it from a position you can't understand.

Maybe, but unlikely to be for the reasons you might think.


You don't know me and are quite wrong about the assumptions you have made about me.

[flyingcrocodile46]

then let them. DNR.
and as smokey said, you'd probably be surprised at the higher-ups who recreationally use class A controlled substances with no adverse affect on society, family, their bank accounts or their quality of life or need for state medical attention.



good answer.

but P is amphetamine. amphetamine is prescribed and used daily for people with mental disorders, has been for decades.
in this case it's the cost/availability and quality of the drug that is a problem moreso than the actual drug. if these "P addicts" could get their fix from pharmac for 5$ a time, could drop a tab at home instead of smoking it off a bit of tinfoil hiding behind the corner dairy, i daresay society's problems would be much reduced.
gangs in OZ have tightened up on P, because it creates 5-year customers, that's the average time it takes for a modern day P user to fuck up/die/ run out of money. they prefer heroin (=morphine) as it creates 20+ year clients.
and i was referring to crack-heroin or crack-cocaine, not so much crack-meth. but i'd give it a nudge.

but you say i'm proud and self indulgent for taking drugs? i keep house, keep kids, keep appointments, keep a garden etc etc. my hobbies are not costing your society anything, so how so?

pray, do you indulge in drink? tobacco? good food? nice car? at what social cost? are there hungry kids in your street? do they get to school without shoes? why don't you forfeit your luxury for their (part of your society eh?) benefit?

and also. while well and good for a community to intervene in it's member's health, the govt-created "society", i feel, has no place interfering in anyones life, if not FOR THAT INDIVIDUAL'S benefit.

I said you appeared to proudly associate with losers, not that you were or are.

The suggestion that society or govt issues (and by default condones) drugs to those that want it is a sure path to disaster. No question and AFAIC not worth debate.


I induldge in all sorts of things (good and bad) and look after my own. The govt takes 50% of my income so I believe that I have done more than enough for the unfortunate (in general terms) though do provide some assistance to some (incl neighbours and their kids) on occassions.

As for your last sentence. That only serves to show that you value your own rights so highly that you would trample on those of others. To that I can only say... Fuck you, discussion over.

[mashman]

The suggestion that society or govt issues (and by default condones) drugs to those that want it is a sure path to disaster. No question and AFAIC not worth debate.

WHEW I was worried there for a moment... but it's good to see that those want drugs will never get their hands on them because they're illegal and it isn't like drug taking goes on day in day out... it would indeed be a complete total and utter cluster fuck as all those who don't take drugs suddenly change their minds and rush out to get them because they suddenly become legal and therefore must be good for you.

[avgas]

but P is amphetamine. amphetamine is prescribed and used daily for people with mental disorders

people put all sorts of letters after my name. i like the ones i-s- a-w-e-s-o-m-e.
but soooooo fkn what. i can spill long words with the best of em, i can shoot crack with the best of em, too.
i thinks the point was, if these drugs have therapeutic benefit, can not (should not) adults be allowed enjoy the benefit recreationally?

Something tells me you fail to comprehend the complexities of the subject (hint start here : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippocratic_Oath). But regardless you fail to acknowledge people for their achievements. Which tells me there are probably a few achievements out there that were presented to you......but you had better things to do.

I wonder what stopped you from going and pursuing these tasks?

[Akzle]

Something tells me you fail to comprehend the complexities of the subject (hint start here : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippocratic_Oath). But regardless you fail to acknowledge people for their achievements. Which tells me there are probably a few achievements out there that were presented to you......but you had better things to do.

I wonder what stopped you from going and pursuing these tasks?

hahahahaaha. i was JUST listening to that on my MP3. afro mu'a fukin M-A-N!
...and i thought that'd probably how the ignorant masses do percieve dope users.

complexities of the situation? what complexities? so doctors are "sworn" to protect life (at all costs, and sure, even if someone has DNR on their chart). cops are "sworn" to act without favor, affection, malice or ill will, and the list of thems attributes amongst them is longer than my.... leg.

who am i failing to aknowledge? what achievments?.. are you even having the same discussion the rest of us are?

what stopped me from being a doctor? i don't care if people die. i think more people should, it would be good for the planet. particularly if they die through their own stupidity which benefits not only the planet but their society and weeds out weak/ stupid genes. i also have issue with government dictating what drugs "should" and "should not" be used, even in the face of clear clinical evidence that (cannabis) "illegal" drugs can be beneficial.
ALSO that euthinasia is not "legal"
AND i also believe that modern science is actually just witholding the cure for cancer, because curing people of shit isn't profitable. it's better to hook people on drugs that mask the symptom than to actually fix the problem.

that, AND i prefer natural science/remedy and holistic healing, not just dishing out paracetamol.
AND, i'm fuckin healthy. i keep my whanau healthy. i don't believe illness is necessary.

who has pharmac shares again?

mashy: gold. but i can't bling you again!