Made in China

[Brian d marge]

Right product right price right time ..oh and they kinda work for less ...

what we should be doing is be competing head to head with the Chinese , that’s right produce the same shyt but better quality ... oh yes that will show em !

lets see, England , Hillman hunter , then the Sony transistor , now the Chinese Apad , next the Indian tantra .........wonder if there is a pattern....Naaaaaaa


Stephen

this thread is pure Gold ......

[gammaguy]

It's frightening that a country rightly considered a superpower is basing it's economy on flooding the international market with cheap crap directly copied from reputable brands, and even worse, producing counterfeit products and trying to pass them off as genuine articles.

Why the fuck are we kowtowing to the slimy pricks?

because everyone in NZ thinks price first and quality second

The Chinese are more than happy to exploit that

[Maha]

Did nobody see the Close Up programme?

A whole batch of Chinese made aluminium ladders destined for Sweden, which were rejected by Sweden because they were made with wafer thin metal and clearly didn't carry the load that the Chinese claimed they would, ended up being imported into New Zealand.

Have we become so focused on 'cheap' that 'quality' doesn't even enter the equation these days?

Hate to be pedantic but...the programme was Sunday and the ladders were rejected by Finland...
I liked the motorcycle frames being produced on the road side....''Dukati'' ones at that!

[JimO]

finland sweden its the same place innit

[Maha]

finland sweden its the same place innit

You'd be great as a boarder control officer.

[willytheekid]

Im with Katman in a way

I Don't understand why our Govn't and others are bending over backwards to deal with china. (actually I do understand...its about pure profit!)

Aside from producing alot of shitty products (they do make some good stuff tho), China is a communist country that has absolutely no regard for other countrys laws or business and trading standards!
They also have no respect for human rights!, its easy to produce cheaper products when your work force is made up of slave labour!.
Then there is the problem with them disregarding nearly ALL international laws and copyrights, they just don't make any effort to curb the abuse of human rights or breach of copy right.
On top of all the above, you also have to look at the effects of china's business and manufacturing processes...once again, they just don't give a shit about by products and the masive amounts of waste they produce, in fact they are one of the worlds worst polluters, and are responcible for the deaths of millions of workers and innocents through poor products, substandard working conditions and lethal by-products and waste etc.

So how can the rest of the world even compete when they are not operating to the same standards and laws that the rest of us are?...or should we start disregading basic human rights, the environment, product standards and laws just so we too can compete and make a fast buck!

...Im all for cheaper products....but at what cost?

Buy smart KBers, because theres more to it than just saving yourself a few bucks

ps: Please note, I acknowledge the fact that there are some great products made in china...but they are simply dwarfed by the inferior, dangerous and slave labour made ripoffs!....china needs to sort its shit out...and so do we as consumers.

[Swoop]

Unusually, I find myself in agreement with katman.

Corruption comes from the highest levels of the political arena of china and that passes down the food-chain. Everyone wants a slice of the profits so the quantities go up and the quality goes down.

I do not knowingly purchase chinese made stuff. They are getting dirtier too, by not stating country of manufacture.

Melamine into baby food is only the tip of a very large iceberg...

[Katman]

Corruption comes from the highest levels of the political arena of china and that passes down the food-chain.

And that's precisely why they're able to get away with blatant counterfeiting and total disregard of any copyright laws.

Corruption is an integral part of their society.

[Swoop]

And that's precisely why they're able to get away with blatant counterfeiting and total disregard of any copyright laws.

Corruption is an integral part of their society.

They have a dedicated band of hackers who seek out industrial and military secrets via the internet. All the relevant information to manufacture just about anything, yet still manage to fuck up the manufacture process.
Thank goodness they have yet to master the jet engine. Double thank goodness, that Air NZ didn't get our aircraft serviced there!

[JimO]

Double thank goodness, that Air NZ didn't get our aircraft serviced there!

yet..........

[GrayWolf]

And once again, just to clarify........

I'm not talking about foreign companies who get their product made in China if it meets their quality control standards.

I'm talking about Chinese companies producing products that have zero quality control.

But the Trains in Wellington be Korean, The new Mainline Locomotives be Chinese.

Those same factories producing goods for 'named brands' do also produce as high a quality goods as the ones produced for said 'OEM' brands... we see it with spares for our bikes... OEM brake pads??? buy a set of Vesra (who make OEM pads) and less than half the price. Same with Oil filters. I agree that the 'minefield' is making sure you get what you are expecting, and not a copy of.. like a Dukati. I know from buying a quality chinese product there are also factories making 'copies' with an almost identical name or a 'clone' that is cheap and nasty.
The 'Asian' countries have always been good at producing 'high tech, at a price'... classic was the made in hong kong transistor radio's of the 60's. You want at a price? We can build at a price...... remember which company was RUNNING the rail network when the new trains were actually ordered.... wasnt Kiwirail...

[mashman]

So how can the rest of the world even compete when they are not operating to the same standards and laws that the rest of us are?...or should we start disregading basic human rights, the environment, product standards and laws just so we too can compete and make a fast buck!

You won't like the answer to that . Wonder if the Chinese send the cheap shit overseas and keep the good shit to themselves? Just like we don't.

[ducatilover]

You won't like the answer to that . Wonder if the Chinese send the cheap shit overseas and keep the good shit to themselves? Just like we don't.

I would if I were them but it must be more sensible to send our good stuff away and charge too much for our rubbish.
'Tis good business and all that, I read it on KB.

[avgas]

So you're blinded solely by a cheap price?

That's worrying.

Your blind enough to think what we sell here is made here. I know whom I am more concerned about.

[avgas]

looks like a good quality chinese ute....seen lots of crashed utes but never seen a cab fall off yet, probably chinese bolts.Attachment 267709

How da fuck did he get it up the tree like that?
FYI for the rest of you here is the model of ute http://www.greatwallauto.co.nz/defau...ticle&ID=21760

I am still at a loss how he got the BACK end of the ute up a tree like that.