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    Quote Originally Posted by Kickaha View Post
    You can buy one new if you like http://thekneeslider.com/archives/20...-continuation/

    Lino Tonti built his own bike to(Linto), before he went and designed some other Italian shitters
    Er i was meaning the Patton GP bikes.

    But the Aermacchi double ups will be appearing soon..........
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    Quote Originally Posted by husaberg View Post

    But the Aermacchi double ups will be appearing soon..........
    Doubt it...there are enough originals still around and being run semi seriously to show that they're badly flawed and anyone doing copies would have to do a heap of very expensive development....and still get beaten by the Patons and MV replicas...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Subike View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumph View Post
    Doubt it...there are enough originals still around and being run semi seriously to show that they're badly flawed and anyone doing copies would have to do a heap of very expensive development....and still get beaten by the Patons and MV replicas...
    I was meaning a write up rather than a write off....

    Posted ages on the ESE thread..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
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    Its a Single but it beat the fours, for a short while at least.
    Outside flywheel yummy.............
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
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    Kinky is using a feather. Perverted is using the whole chicken

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    Quote Originally Posted by husaberg View Post
    Its a Single but it beat the fours, for a short while at least.
    Outside flywheel yummy.............
    At one of the early Register meetings at Levels - when we still had a register in the SI...Hugh Anderson came down with an ex works outside flywheel 350 Manx. He unloads proudly and wonders why no one is going into raptures....looks 2 pits over and there's another one!!
    Geoff Mardon had found and restored one too. Hugh won the first 350 race from Geoff, but after some tuition at lunchtime on the differences between car and bike lines, Geoff beat Hugh and was satisfied....
    Hugh was surprised to put it mildly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumph View Post
    At one of the early Register meetings at Levels - when we still had a register in the SI...Hugh Anderson came down with an ex works outside flywheel 350 Manx. He unloads proudly and wonders why no one is going into raptures....looks 2 pits over and there's another one!!
    Geoff Mardon had found and restored one too. Hugh won the first 350 race from Geoff, but after some tuition at lunchtime on the differences between car and bike lines, Geoff beat Hugh and was satisfied....
    Hugh was surprised to put it mildly.
    Nice....I have meet Hugh a couple of times and stayed at our house one meeting. Nice guy and really humble (still owes me a clutch lever though)

    Wow beating Hugh on equal machinery that's an accomplishment. but everwhere you go, everyone always wants to beat the ex world champ even if it was 30 long years ago that he was a world champ.
    There was also one in Aussie as well for a time which could be where Geoff's or Hugh's one went, i guess.
    I like the story like the story when Hailwood was reintroduced to his very special 7R. Allegedly immediately turned and walked off in disgust, As it had broken down when he was leading and cost can him a whitewash of the TT races one year. Allan Bramwell i think, had it i his tasty colection.

    Added another Outside flywheel Proboscis...........
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    I reminder distinctly .




    Kinky is using a feather. Perverted is using the whole chicken

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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    Oh bugger FJ ......does than mean that......Qianjiang group....oh...they make......Keeway.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Subike View Post
    Oh bugger FJ ......does than mean that......Qianjiang group....oh...they make......Keeway.....
    Benelli are still built in Italy, by Italians ... just owned by the Chinese.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback View Post
    Who says Honda's are gay!?
    Man to Man books does...................

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    Quote Originally Posted by RDjase View Post
    Man to Man books does...................

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    Nah. I had a 92 RS250. Was anything but gay!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback View Post
    Nah. I had a 92 RS250. Was anything but gay!
    I think the translation from Jap to English for "Blokes and fast race bikes" didnt work very well
    Dale Kerrigan: If there's anything Dad loved more than serenity, it was a big two stroke engine on full throttle!

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    Quote Originally Posted by husaberg View Post
    Nice....I have meet Hugh a couple of times and stayed at our house one meeting. Nice guy and really humble (still owes me a clutch lever though)

    Wow beating Hugh on equal machinery that's an accomplishment. but everwhere you go, everyone always wants to beat the ex world champ even if it was 30 long years ago that he was a world champ. .
    Hugh was just a young'un compared to Geoff - Geoff was 3rd in the World Speedway final in '52 or '53....then did years racing cars including taming the Stanton Corvette and development driving for George Begg's F5000's....then went classic bike racing for fun in his retirement. Still doing restorations. Legend.

    And bloody Bramwell broke for parts what had been my Manx...that bike had won 4 NZGP's incl the last at Cust and the 1st at Ruapuna !!! Bastard.

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    Not so old but it is a Honda and built by the factory as a race bike sort of there is a guy in the UK who makes a replica look a like chassis for these motors as well.
    http://www.d-mengineering.co.uk/inde...=article&id=71


    http://www.replicaframes.co.uk/


    This page is well worth a look
    http://www.cmsnl.com/classic-honda-g...l_media1Page=2
    Quote Originally Posted by Grumph View Post
    development driving for George Begg's F5000's....'
    George Begg Bloody hard case, successful but unaffected can't ever remember him not laughing, or smiling
    Quote Originally Posted by Grumph View Post
    And bloody Bramwell broke for parts what had been my Manx...that bike had won 4 NZGP's incl the last at Cust and the 1st at Ruapuna !!! Bastard.
    As i guess as he is, er... still probably dead. Now it might be time to let it go.
    He may have felt bad about it. I guess that one died (the Norton)so others could live.
    Just like in the Lion King
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    I reminder distinctly .




    Kinky is using a feather. Perverted is using the whole chicken

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    Honda RC148/9



    Yes. The 125/5 which is not coincidentally very similar to the 50 twin.

    The RC148 is the great surprise of 1965.

    It is a five cylinder, in principle two and a half 50 cc twins.

    Bore and stroke are 33 x 29 mm for a total capacity of 124 cc.

    Drive to the camshafts is by gear train between the third and fourth cylinders. Power is 34 bhp at 20,000 rpm. There are eight speeds in the box, and the engine has wetsump lubrication.

    The four exhausts of cylinders 1, 2, 4 and 5 sit in the normal place, left and right of the bike, the exhaust of cylinder 3 sweeps up and around the lefy hand side of the engine, crosses through the frame, to end up under the right leg of the rider.

    Dry weight is given as 85 kg.
    This was most definitely the pinnacle of Honda's 125 development, and in particular it shows Honda's first attempts at playing with crank layout and firing orders to influence power delivery...

    You see, the crankshaft ont the RC-149 was really unique. The left three cylinders had a crank layout with 120-degree spaced throws (just like many three-cylinder engines), but the right two cylinders has their crank throws at 180-degrees!!! Honda was never very forthcoming as to why they did this, but when I asked Irimajiri about it all he did was smile and say "Power delivery and breathing." That was all he would say on the subject, period.

    Power was given as 38 HP @ 20,500 RPM, but the engines were known to have turned as much as 24,000, though they didn't make more power up there. The large amount of available over-rev capability was to allow Honda's riders to stay in a lower gear if necessary between corners, and minimize shifting... After all, they were racing against bloody two-strokes!

    Yamaha put Phil Read and Bill Ivy up against Honda in 1966, but it didn't matter. Luigi Taveri won the title for Honda - both the manufacturer's and rider's.

    This was to be the last time a four-stroke won the 125cc World Championship.

    Honda withdrew from the 50cc and 125cc championships in 1967 to concentrate on the 250, 350, and 500 titles. Never again would the 125 class hear the wailing howl of the Honda Fives, and the 125cc class would forever be heard as the yowling sqeaul of two-cycles...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
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    Kinky is using a feather. Perverted is using the whole chicken

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