I believe in gay marriage

[HenryDorsetCase]

FFS no you can't have a happy divorces it would threaten lawyer incomes.

As someone who dabbles a bit in this area, let me tell you two things. 1. The law is pretty straightforwad in 99% of dissolutions. 2. People arguing and fighting and fucking up their children are the problem. Straight, gay, black, white, stripy, green or orange, a messy dissolution is an ugly thing to be around. I don't do those ones anymore....

and, for the record, its not particularly lucrative. Certainly not for the stress. involved.

[mashman]

You shouldn't judge everyone by your own (lack of) standards.

I wasn't...

[huff3r]

This thread needs more lesbians...

[Madness]

This thread needs more lesbians...

[Oakie]

Gays are now going to be allowed to adopt kids. It's pretty fucked up that a kid could have 2 moms or 2 dads. How do you think the kid is going to feel?

Umm, two of my grandchildren have two mothers as of last weekend and they seem to feel fine about it. Certainly better than just having a mother and no-one else. FWIW, I feel fine with it too.

[Brett]

My issue with the marriage equality bill has nothing to do with my religion etc. but has more to do with my objection of the use of the word "marriage" when describing two same sex individuals together in a marriage type union. Let me explain, it would be incorrect of me to describe myself as being in a homosexual relationship with my wife because, quite simply it cannot be that way. She is F, I am M. To me, by its very definition, marriage is the union between a male and a female. There should be another name for the union between a man/man or woman/woman that has equal grounding in law etc. so that homosexual people have an equally appropriate title for their relationship as marriage, but also allows for a clear distinction from heterosexual "marriage" - not because their relationship is "cheaper" or anything, but simply because it is not the same as mine. Liken it to a diesel vs a petrol motor...they are both equally useful at different things, but they are never going to be the same.

[Madness]

My issue with the marriage equality bill has nothing to do with my religion etc. but has more to do with my objection of the use of the word "marriage" when describing two same sex individuals together in a marriage type union. Let me explain, it would be incorrect of me to describe myself as being in a homosexual relationship with my wife because, quite simply it cannot be that way. She is F, I am M. To me, by its very definition, marriage is the union between a male and a female. There should be another name for the union between a man/man or woman/woman that has equal grounding in law etc. so that homosexual people have an equally appropriate title for their relationship as marriage, but also allows for a clear distinction from heterosexual "marriage" - not because their relationship is "cheaper" or anything, but simply because it is not the same as mine. Liken it to a diesel vs a petrol motor...they are both equally useful at different things, but they are never going to be the same.

Funny thing is there was this thing called a Civil Union which pretty much covered your wants in regards to labels. The only difference between your heterosexual marriage and the future gay marriages we're lilely to see soon are the different dangly bits, or lack thereof, in the trouser department. It's a shame you have an issue with it, hopefully you'll grow out of it in time.

[Brett]

Funny thing is there was this thing called a Civil Union which pretty much covered your wants in regards to labels. The only difference between your heterosexual marriage and the future gay marriages we're lilely to see soon are the different dangly bits, or lack thereof, in the trouser department. It's a shame you have an issue with it, hopefully you'll grow out of it in time.

You can't just change pink to blue and expect everyone to agree that there is now no distinction between pink and blue. Calling one thing pink and another thing blue does not in any way diminish the properties of either, and neither one has their rights trampled because pink is pink and blue is blue. I reserve the right to call pink "pink" and blue "blue" and to be known by the colour that I actually am (I gather by this point you realise that I'm talking metaphorically, not about the colours pink and blue ) Equally, I am not going to go around telling someone that because they are a different colour to me, that they are wrong etc. but I expect to be able to differentiate myself and my relationship from something that is quite different in a fundamental way. Note different does not imply better/worse. It's hard to celebrate our differences when we're being pushed towards homogeneity.

[oldrider]

It has taken many years to be allowed "gay marriage" in NZ, BUT have they thought about "gay divorces"?
Might take another 15 years to be allowed to get rid of S/HWMBO!

Well you can bet your bottom dollar that the law society has and they are looking forward to all those hard earned pink dollars choking up their vaults!

[Brett]

Well you can bet your bottom dollar that the law society has and they are looking forward to all those hard earned pink dollars choking up their vaults!

Interesting point actually...now there are just more people to get divorced...never actually considered that.

[Katman]

To me, by its very definition, marriage is the union between a male and a female.

To me, marriage is a commitment between two people - over and above whether one is male and one is female.

[awayatc]

. It's a shame you have an issue with it, hopefully you'll grow out of it in time.

Thats a fucken mature statement......

Your opinion is the only right one....?

Grow up

[awayatc]

you can all do whatever the fuck you want..........

You can all call it whatever you want.....

But if you want to call it marriage you need one of each....

If not its just gay.

Bit like showing with a Honda at a Harley meeting

[mashman]

You can't just change pink to blue and expect everyone to agree that there is now no distinction between pink and blue.

They're just colours of equal value to people who don't feel the need to distinguish between colours.

[Brett]

They're just colours of equal value to people who don't feel the need to distinguish between colours.

If that were the case, and they don't feel the need to distinguish themselves, then why be bothered about it in the first place? A rose by another other name....