Dear God man, that slave stole a flower from the garden!Originally Posted by tigertim20
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Dear God man, that slave stole a flower from the garden!
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Hardcore Biker
Non so blind as those that can not see, comes to mind.
It's amusing how fast you are to throw nasty names at those with a different opinion to you and label me as discriminating. Lets refresh ourselves, the words you threw around, "hating, bigoted, homophobic people" and "you are actively discriminating against them". Actually, that's exactly what you have done to me and the others that simply want to retain the existing meaning of the word marriage.
So you are saying someone with your opinion has the right to insult and call names to anyone with a different opinion, but those with a different opinion to you can't say jack shit or else you will jump on your high horse and bleet on about how oppressed and discriminated against you are.
How the hell do you get dressed in the morning with such twisted double standards. Equality, fairness to all, unbiased, you don't know the meaning of these word.
Just like the knights of the crusades, ignorantly blinded to reason by their cause.
Your attitude is like reverse racism, reverse homophobia taking away the rights of heterosexuals. That's what I object to, not homosexuals.
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Fair weather rider
just one question, by granting same sex marriages, what rights are being taken away from anyone?
I honestly can't think of a single thing that you'd lose, except the specialness of being better than everyone else by virtue of having more rights.
To be free is to accept the consequences of your acttions
None so blind as will not see.
Hardcore Biker
The right to retain the word marriage for the institution where a man and a woman become husband and wife. Really simple concept.
Why do minority supporters have to be so bloody ignorant and inconsiderate of the rights of the majority. And keep to the facts, nowhere have I said or inferred that heterosexuals are more special than homosexuals. What I have learned from this thread is that homosexual supporters are more one eyed, inconsiderate and prejudice towards others than heterosexuals. All the while you bleet about wanting equality and fairness when these are traits clearly few of you are capable of displaying to others.
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Oppan Biker Style
"I now pronounce you husband and husband" just doesn't have the same ring about it...
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Your beliefs don't make you a better person, your behaviour does.
Just faidin away!
True, however:
Heterosexual marriage is a long established tradition that does not cater for same sex equivalents!
Homosexual "marriage" equivalent is a new concept so let them establish their own specific process and tradition to celebrate and mark the occasion!
I personally don't have an opinion on whether it is right or wrong, it is simply their own business but it is not the same thing as heterosexual marriage!
So yes .... new concept, .... new process, .... and new name for it but with equivalent recognition for it's legal standing etc.
Currently marriage "clearly" caters for him and her!
Establish a new process that "clearly" caters for him and him.
And another new process that "clearly" caters for her and her.
Aio ki te Aorangi
Oh FFS... easy way to sort this. Allow men and women to change their gender on their birth certificate. They can have a birth gender and a current preferred gender. Every dick and cunt will be happy and it'll be a damn site cheaper than putting in any form of other legislation etc... then the homophobe don't touch my "marriage" word brigade will be happy.
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Forum whore
Why is it that anyone who disagrees with homosexuality is branded as homophobic? Very few would be I think. Understand the meaning of words before using them.
You don't get to be an old dog without learning a few tricks.
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Oppan Biker Style
Exactly! Talk about ignorant!
Everyone knows homophobia is the fear of the image or any representation of the cartoon character Homor Simpson... So there!
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They must be. Otherwise they'd see the hypocrisy in their argument... after all "they" aren't allowed to use the word marriage. Who are "they"? Sounds homophobic to me. Get all purist all you like, but if you can't accept "them" as equals in every way shape or form, please pick an ism or an obia you'd be more comfortable with and I'll use it. Til then I use whatever words I like
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Likewise, from Wikipedia:
Homophobia is a range of negative attitudes and feelings toward homosexuality or people who are identified or perceived as being lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender (LGBT). Definitions refer variably to antipathy, contempt, prejudice, aversion, irrational fear, and hatred.
Homophobia is observable in critical and hostile behavior such as discrimination and violence on the basis of sexual orientations that are non-heterosexual.
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Oppan Biker Style
Oh, so it's not a fear of Homor Simpson then. My bad...
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Forum whore
A phobia per se, is an unreasoned fear,
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/homophobia
I doubt many have a "fear" of homosexuality or of homosexuals as persons. Many may not even have antipathy towards them.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/medical/antipathy
Some may be as I am and believe it is unnatural as it goes directly against the design of the human species, something you cannot argue with, male and female of any life is for a specific reason, and causes far more harm than good, something else that history attests to.
I have no fear of or hatred for homosexuals and everyone has the right and in this country, the freedom to choose for themselves how they want to live. However, such ones must also be willing to accept the outcomes of their choices.
You can bring morality and Biblical standards into it if you wish but again they are not homophobic if very plain.
You don't get to be an old dog without learning a few tricks.
Shorai Powersports batteries are very trick!
Aio ki te Aorangi
Bullshit, total and utter bullshit to the point of sheer unadulterated lunacy and ignorance. My proof. There be gay people walking amongst us. If it were by design then the design is either faulty or there was no design to begin with and it all happened naturally.
The harm is done by you fucktards deciding that what "they" are doing and the equality they seek is wrong. If history has told us anything it's that a good phobia of anything different causes hassle because it is seen out with the norm. That phobia stems from the top as us plebs understand how life has evolved and that we are indeed all different. How dare the fucktards decide what is normal and what isn't when they haven't got the first clue of what life is and how life has evolved. Nothing but a bunch of prejudiced, one eyed morons with the temerity to deny that a "condition" exists because it goes against their belief systems, even though the opposite is standing in their face and asking for a fair shout... It's pretty fuckin pathetic and childish given our recent history.
Just faidin away!
Aren't you just conveniently ignoring the fact that it is/was the homosexual fraternity that made the declaration that that "they" are different!They must be. Otherwise they'd see the hypocrisy in their argument... after all "they" aren't allowed to use the word marriage. Who are "they"? Sounds homophobic to me. Get all purist all you like, but if you can't accept "them" as equals in every way shape or form, please pick an ism or an obia you'd be more comfortable with and I'll use it. Til then I use whatever words I like
"They" then pleaded with the rest of society to accept them for who and what they are and to allow them to simply blend into and exist amongst that society!
Society has listened to and heard their plea and made many allowances for this to happen but the homosexual society (as is the want of minority groups) just keeps on making demand after demand for more and more concessions!
"They" are not satisfied with equality, "they" will never stop demanding until they have control! ... Call it what you like!
When I first went to sea, the ships (Merchant) catering sections were staffed mainly with homosexuals who found a safe haven in that world.
During my four years at sea I constantly heard how all they wanted was to be allowed to be accepted and live their lives on shore as part of the community at large!
For this "they" commanded my sympathy and respect and I have always been a sympathiser to their cause because of that!
I wonder how many of those people envisaged the demands being placed on today's society or is it that simply the result of the disrespect that follows when the Status Quo relents and gets misinterpreted as weakness that must be exploited!
Personally, I suspect the latter!
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