I believe in gay marriage

[Berries]

To me marriage was so that my children had parents with the same name. Call me old fashioned. As children are not a possibility for a gay couple then all I see is one group trying to gain rights they don't have just to be considered equal. They're welcome to it.

[Maha]

To me marriage was so that my children had parents with the same name. Call me old fashioned. As children are not a possibility for a gay couple then all I see is one group trying to gain rights they don't have just to be considered equal. They're welcome to it.

I know gay men who have children from being married before jumping the fence.
Adoption is an option...Call me old fashioned but, even an adopted child has the right to be raised with a family name?

[Quasievil]

News flash for ya. Gay parents raise their own children. I was thinking you brainless, now I'm leaning towards amoeba.

Ya What ? you calling me brainless with a comment like that QUOTE;Gay parents raise their own children...........how to they fucking procreate ? unless they use an outside source i.e sperm donor for lesbos and or a surrogate for homos then WTF ? in which case it aint their kid
Gays cant procreate sheeeeeh

[mashman]

Ya What ? you calling me brainless with a comment like that QUOTE;Gay parents raise their own children...........how to they fucking procreate ? unless they use an outside source i.e sperm donor for lesbos and or a surrogate for homos then WTF ? in which case it aint their kid
Gays cant procreate sheeeeeh

See Maha's response above and then read your own response... all of the answers are there, but unfortunately you need a brain to join the dots. The sperm/eggs can be theirs and therefore they have their own child ya dim fucko. Ignore brainless, you should go with amoeba.

[Tigadee]

You probably also couldn't get a job in public media without being publicly supportive of religion, regardless of how you actually feel about it.

I doubt it that's true at all. Paul Henry doesn't seem to be particularly respectful of religions (or anything for that matter) publicly but he still got jobs...

In fact, being irreverent of religions is more fashionable these days.

[HenryDorsetCase]

I doubt it that's true at all. Paul Henry doesn't seem to be particularly respectful of religions (or anything for that matter) publicly but he still got jobs...

In fact, being irreverent of religions is more fashionable these days.

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"Religion should be treated with ridicule, hatred and contempt. And I claim that right" - C Hitchens, RIP

[Tigadee]

"Religion should be treated with ridicule, hatred and contempt. And I claim that right" - C Hitchens, RIP

Thanks for proving my point... Very fashionable, isn't it?

Take comedians for example, there was no mockery of religion (in public stand-up anyway) till the 80s starting with George Carlin and Dennis Leary and chaps like that. Now it's just fashionable, a trend and good material - and continues with Ricky Gervais and Dylan Moran, et company... Just an observation.

Well, it's how the pendulum swings, isn't it? One day, civilisation is all puritanical and holy-holy, and the next, the rejection of all that came before, of the establishment, of 'The Man'.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Thanks for proving my point... Very fashionable, isn't it?

Take comedians for example, there was no mockery of religion (in public stand-up anyway) till the 80s starting with George Carlin and Dennis Leary and chaps like that. Now it's just fashionable, a trend and good material - and continues with Ricky Gervais and Dylan Moran, et company... Just an observation.

Well, it's how the pendulum swings, isn't it? One day, civilisation is all puritanical and holy-holy, and the next, the rejection of all that came before, of the establishment, of 'The Man'.

Don't try and belittle beliefs I have had since I was 12 years old as fashionable.

Don't try and dismiss criticism of hate fuelled institutions as "good material"

Don't try and belittle Hitchens (my intellectual superior and yours) by comparing him with bloody stand up comedians.


I'll say it again: religion should be treated with ridicule, with hatred, and with contempt. I claim, and am exercising, that right.

You might be some fundy fuckwit that believes the earth was created 4500 years ago, you might be a reasonably sane and sensible person, just not in full grip of their faculties, and oppressed by the blinkers of religion, whatever. But to claim your set of beliefs (which is implicitly what you are doing) are superior to mine, or to anyone else's JUST BECAUSE they are based on religion? No.

[Tigadee]

Don't try and belittle beliefs I have had since I was 12 years old as fashionable.

Don't try and dismiss criticism of hate fuelled institutions as "good material"

Don't try and belittle Hitchens (my intellectual superior and yours) by comparing him with bloody stand up comedians.

I'll say it again: religion should be treated with ridicule, with hatred, and with contempt. I claim, and am exercising, that right.

You might be some fundy fuckwit that believes the earth was created 4500 years ago, you might be a reasonably sane and sensible person, just not in full grip of their faculties, and oppressed by the blinkers of religion, whatever. But to claim your set of beliefs (which is implicitly what you are doing) are superior to mine, or to anyone else's JUST BECAUSE they are based on religion? No.

Observation is not to be confused with belittlement or dismissing your rights. Contempt and hatred is not a compulsory reaction to observations of trends, changing values, mores and practices. If I said music today shows a powerful swing towards overt sexualisation as compared to the 70s, am I dismissing or belittling current music?

Nowhere too did I ever claim superiority to your beliefs, and I don't think I ever tried to push mine on you either. I observed and I stated my observations. Thank you for allowing me to state my opinions without an over-reaction...

[HenryDorsetCase]

I know gay men who have children from being married before jumping the fence.
Adoption is an option...Call me old fashioned but, even an adopted child has the right to be raised with a family name?

I have done work for a lot of couples with blended families: i.e. the names are all different. Still families, for better or worse. How successful they are is down to hard work, will to succeed, and some luck.

[Quasievil]

See Maha's response above and then read your own response... all of the answers are there, but unfortunately you need a brain to join the dots. The sperm/eggs can be theirs and therefore they have their own child ya dim fucko. Ignore brainless, you should go with amoeba.

Thanks for the insults.
Issue is your comment was a generalization, which in context is incorrect, you should have written "On occasion Gay parents maybe raising there own children", or, "its possible in some situations Gay parents raise there own children" a generalization as you chose it, wasnt clear for your argument.

The Fact you cant write to get a point across so people understand it correctly isnt me being thick is it.

I will refrain from insulting you, my day has been bad enough already thanks

[mashman]

Thanks for the insults.
Issue is your comment was a generalization, which in context is incorrect, you should have written "On occasion Gay parents maybe raising there own children", or, "its possible in some situations Gay parents raise there own children" a generalization as you chose it, wasnt clear for your argument.

The Fact you cant write to get a point across so people understand it correctly isnt me being thick is it.

I will refrain from insulting you, my day has been bad enough already thanks

he called me names...

You obviously understood my meaning as you have provided alternatives. I guess it didn't suit your mood at the time... but dats ok, don't take it personally as it's a familiar pattern on KB... on the plus side you did seek clarification even though you answered your own question.

Don't be a silly brain addled amoeba... lay it on me big boy, it may help your day brighten somewhat

[HenryDorsetCase]

Thanks for the insults.

best post in this thread

oh the ironing

[Quasievil]

he called me names...

You obviously understood my meaning as you have provided alternatives. I guess it didn't suit your mood at the time... but dats ok, don't take it personally as it's a familiar pattern on KB... on the plus side you did seek clarification even though you answered your own question.

Don't be a silly brain addled amoeba... lay it on me big boy, it may help your day brighten somewhat

Dont Over react to it, Im well tuned to insults on this site.

have fun Im outta this thread, its like arguing with greenies about climate change, they are so far gone they have no chance of return.

As a final comment in respects to gay marriage

FUCK I HATE HOMOS AND ALWAYS WILL

[mashman]

Dont Over react to it, Im well tuned to insults on this site.

have fun Im outta this thread, its like arguing with greenies about climate change, they are so far gone they have no chance of return.

As a final comment in respects to gay marriage

FUCK I HATE HOMOS AND ALWAYS WILL

One bigot down, 39.9% to go. As an ACC protestor might say, Who's Next?