Sure, It's off topic but which Jap car brand is the crappest?

[onearmedbandit]

Five pages and yet no ones mentioned Alfa Romeo!

That's because they go without mentioning. Or is that they don't go...

[steve_t]

Five pages and yet no ones mentioned Alfa Romeo!

Oh yeah! Horribly made Japanese cars

[Rcktfsh]

Oh yeah! Horribly made Japanese cars

Long since been hi jacked by tales of euro woes. The later Volvo's crack me up, basically the hypocondriacs of the automotive car world. Turn on the key and before starting the displays listing a sad tale of woe and reasons it shouldn't be driven, they make Marvin the paranoid android look positive.

[SVboy]

Toyota Cavalier-someone had to say it. IIRC it was ckd from us-assembled in Japan and sold to an unsuspecting public.....

[JimO]

Toyota Cavalier-someone had to say it. IIRC it was ckd from us-assembled in Japan and sold to an unsuspecting public.....

its not a toyota though

[Kickaha]

its not a toyota though

Saw them at the local Toyota dealer with Chev badges on them, about $2000 for a front windscreen when they first bought them in

[onearmedbandit]

its not a toyota though

Yup Chevrolet Cavalier. Horrible car that you'd struggle to sell on a $1 reserve auction. But we used to sell them by the boatload. Can't believe I admitted that. Guess it's the first step in dealing with the fact I'm responsible for probably 40 or more of them being on our roads myself.

[ducatilover]

Yup Chevrolet Cavalier. Horrible car that you'd struggle to sell on a $1 reserve auction. But we used to sell them by the boatload. Can't believe I admitted that. Guess it's the first step in dealing with the fact I'm responsible for probably 40 or more of them being on our roads myself.

Made by GM, such a crap car. Gutless for a 2.4 (even underpowered compared to most 2.0s at the time)
Hard to source parts at reasonable prices and not exactly the most reliable car...

I had a mate who loved his, but he's a fucking idiot.

[scumdog]

Yup Chevrolet Cavalier. Horrible car that you'd struggle to sell on a $1 reserve auction. But we used to sell them by the boatload. Can't believe I admitted that. Guess it's the first step in dealing with the fact I'm responsible for probably 40 or more of them being on our roads myself.

Thry're not related to an Oldsmobile Cutlass Ciera by any chance??
I certainly hope not...

[EJK]

I don't think the nickname "Shitsubishi" was given for no reason.

[Akzle]

If they are such crap why do you keep buying them?

they win.

i've never had a problem with them. the old girl's sigma gave up on rust (the most she's ever done toward "servicing" a vehicle is putting fuel in. 91, that is.)

one of my V3ks had rust in the chassis (i did tend to drive it through the ocean a bit though), the other's were all sweet sweet. mate crashed the sigma, folded the front quarter in, it had a ke dropped in after and was raced. the other V3 went because the then-missus "needed somewhere to park HER car" and apparently 4 was enough. still got the ute... the next missus folded up the 6g76? diamante (2.5 V6), but that was awesome (for an auto FWD), especially with traction control off...

[scumdog]

they win.

i've never had a problem with them. the old girl's sigma gave up on rust (the most she's ever done toward "servicing" a vehicle is putting fuel in. 91, that is.)

one of my V3ks had rust in the chassis (i did tend to drive it through the ocean a bit though), the other's were all sweet sweet. mate crashed the sigma, folded the front quarter in, it had a ke dropped in after and was raced. the other V3 went because the then-missus "needed somewhere to park HER car" and apparently 4 was enough. still got the ute... the next missus folded up the 6g76? diamante (2.5 V6), but that was awesome (for an auto FWD), especially with traction control off...

TWO missus's that used up your car space and cars????

[Akzle]

TWO missus's that used up your car space and cars????

i might not be the sharpest crayon in the jar.

but i have learned. (plus. NEVER sold a bike for a bitch.)

[rebel]

While I bow to OAB,s industry knowledge, I dispute the reliability of European cars generally speaking, especially in comparison with jappa cars . I am sure that a late model with FSH or brand nz new euro would be reliable as[and undoubtably safer than a jappa], but given a few years the problems can be bankrupting. I give you mercedies air suspension or even their air cond units. How about VW coil packs. The particulate filters on any euro diesel. The fuckers clog on high quality euro fuel let alone NZ sludge..... I notice no-one has been game to mention the reliability of ANY french car!![peugeot 404 504 excepted--once apon a time]

Funny you should mention Euro cars and high tech diesels, the French were ahead of the world a good 15 years ago when they released the 2.0 HDi in the Peugeot and Citroens which has proved to be a bulletproof motor even today (much like the older mechanical injected 1.9 it replaced from the 1980s). The fact both can return 5.0l/100km in something the size of a 406 makes these new expensive hybrids look like a crock of shit. As for all the VW anb Mercedes common rail diesel vans cruising around which again prove to be reliable so that speaks for itself.
As for the DPFs, they are new technology so expect teething problems, and its not just limited to Euros, old man work at Hyundai and they are going thru DPFs (5 grand) and turbos (4 grand) like no tomorrow, for the mid size car and SUV whatever the heaps of shit are called.
The new Suzuki diesels are Fiat motors, the new V6 diesel Navara is a Renault motor, gotta be better than that heap of shit ZD30.

Digging my 02 AU XR6 (last of the Tickfords), mind you it only has 45,000 on it so just a baby. It does like fuel!

put some kays on her! my old XR6 before I sold it to my flatmate, still going strong to this day, unopened engine and g.box although first gear syncro is fucked.

[Maha]

Anyone have comments about the Mercedes, Volvo, other "high class" european imports that seem to be easy to pick up at very reasonable prices?

Far from it, in fact, it's Typically Topical OR Topically typical.