Are the boys at BSB with their "stock" superbikes onto something?

[Crasherfromwayback]

and what happens when said order gets here and it's wrong, cause maybe the company can't supply the right ones and we're 'too small' to worry about and they dump in any old thing into the container?

You don't pay for them.

[tail_end_charlie]

30 BMW 1000R for sale on another thread.......theres a start.............joking

I like that thought. No, seriously, I do. And I can supply the bikes.* It'll be epic!!!!





*So long as someone else supplies the dough to pay for them.

[SWERVE]

You don't pay for them.

Not much good when you have to pay for shipment (or a large part of it) before it leaves the dock................ getting a refund.............good luck.

[Mental Trousers]

You don't pay for them.

Not much good when you have to pay for shipment (or a large part of it) before it leaves the dock................ getting a refund.............good luck.

You're also left with a bunch of tyres that you can't use.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Not much good when you have to pay for shipment (or a large part of it) before it leaves the dock................ getting a refund.............good luck.

Hate to tell you this mate...but we don't pay for our tyres until they arrive.

[Robert Taylor]

So you think if the up-n-coming guy, now that he knows he is on
(A) a similar bike spec,
(B) similar tyre spec and
(C) doesnt have to worry about the fact that the top guys "dont care if they hiff it" cos like him/her they dont have a spare bike to jump onto & finish the race or days racing

You think he now has LESS incentive ??????

My references to spare bikes were tongue in cheek, the reality is virtually no-one now has a spare bike.

But what needs to be taken stock of is that any ''slash and burn'' of any classes needs to take stock that already there is very little room to move, sensibly. Many suppliers of bikes and componentry / expendable componentry are ( myself included ) already doing so at a bottom line of what is sensible, perhaps over that.

In Superbike stock engines with bolt on bits such as pipes and filters, and ECUs with an engine life extending rev limit sounds eminently sensible as a very real cost cutting move. BUT and this is a big but, policing of that becomes a major issue.

And is it always about trying to cut costs even further, when everyone involved should be trying to atract more money via sponsorship or by well heeled benefactors? Not so possible from product suppliers, as above. But occassionally we see well heeled benefactors come and go, but often go. Why is that? Is it because people with money who may be prepared to spend it on supporting young talent may either be put off by those in the paddock who almost openly sneer at people with large chequebooks? Or they get ''the vibes'', very quickly. Or, overall are we not as proffessional as we should be? Those factors being the case there are plenty of other sports where they may be more welcome.

[Robert Taylor]

Eggs Zachery!
Look how popular Moto2 is now, bagged to hell before it started, now its a spectacle to watch due to hard fought battles.

I like MotoGP, when Jorge clears off and wins comfortably

[Robert Taylor]

OK, so lets think about what the advantages might be too a supplier, instead of bagging something cos it doesnt exist (which is pretty hard to do unless you have a timetravel machine)

1) Guaranteed purchase of 100's of tyres to one buyer
2) Bulk drop delivery of said tyres to one or two drop off points
3) Guaranteed payment
4) Secure and naming rights for a specific class within a national series

Hmm, now off the top of my head as an experienced manufacturer, importer and seller of products in New Zealand, i suspect it just miiiiight be doo-able.....

Will you supply me 20 Greenhouses at 3% margin over your landed cost and free freight? Ill give you naming rights!!!!

[Crasherfromwayback]

I like MotoGP, when Jorge clears off and wins comfortably

Yeah he's still pretty to watch. But I prefer seeing a scrap for the win.

[The Chow]

Will you supply me 20 Greenhouses at 3% margin over your landed cost and free freight? Ill give you naming rights!!!!

posted this on another thread and just stating what I know.

Having been a tyre importer in a previous life , I can tell you the margins that were run on race tyres was kept to a minimum where possible . The bulk of the tyre stock (MX , Road etc)carried the race stuff which was a very seasonal thing sales wise , and if you weren't the top dog , you could tie up a lot of capital in slow moving stock. Remember tyre importers are in business to sell tyres for the Joe and Joanne average motorcyclist , racing is great and great for image , but I'm sure the cost to benefits still aren't that crash hot.

The fact of the matter we made sweet F**K all on road race stuff after interest and other costs. I would imagine things aren't that different today. But it was the fact that our product did well , that we got the buzz out of it , if we had been more of a business person I guess we would never have done it.

But hey thats the way things pan out I guess.

[jellywrestler]

You don't pay for them.

yep and we've got a race series with no tyres in the country

[jellywrestler]

Hate to tell you this mate...but we don't pay for our tyres until they arrive.

bet your importers don't have that luxury though?

[The Chow]

bet your importers don't have that luxury though?

Speaking from experience you are not wrong.

[jellywrestler]

Speaking from experience you are not wrong.

I have never been wrong; though I was once but turned out I wasn't!

[Crasherfromwayback]

yep and we've got a race series with no tyres in the country

Only if your original conspiracy theory came true. And if they tyres were ordered early enough...and turned up to be islamic hidden grenades...you'd have time to sort it.