Receives $715 a week on the DPB...

[Brett]

I'm confused (about many things...but one thing in particular at this present point in time)...how did she get $9.5k for a failed business? I think I need to start creating and failing businesses daily/weekly.

[ducatilover]

Tar the beneficiaries!

I had a nice wee lapse of sanity last year and got allowed $150 a week from the gubbermint, which was far better than nothing I must say.
That sent all my savings out the window, and many plans.
I'm attempting to pool money to start a small business, yet some cum-bucket-baby-spitter is getting $565 more a week than I was? Great system, make the mad, unstable guy live on rice, give the other everything else.


I'll stop crying now

[Akzle]

I'm confused (about many things...but one thing in particular at this present point in time)...how did she get $9.5k for a failed business? I think I need to start creating and failing businesses daily/weekly.

business start up grants/allowances and loans from teh govt.
not the kind of thing you walk in off the shelf and get. you need a business plan (no mean feat) etc and it needs to be approved. it was the MSD (ministry that handles winz) and something else. check out business.bovt.nz under "support"

particularly with the nats in.. they're all about jacking their business buddies off... business makes the world go round eh?

[Brett]

business start up grants/allowances and loans from teh govt.
not the kind of thing you walk in off the shelf and get. you need a business plan (no mean feat) etc and it needs to be approved. it was the MSD (ministry that handles winz) and something else. check out business.bovt.nz under "support"

particularly with the nats in.. they're all about jacking their business buddies off... business makes the world go round eh?

One of the business scheme grants would make sense...however the OP made it rather sound like a payment post failure.

[Oscar]

She's a cunt of the highest order... how dare she go on about privacy when the government she represents deny's all sorts of information under the OIA that is paid for by the public purse... she's almost as brainless as the fucktards who support her position.

And you're a stinking hypocrite.
The woman took her situation into the political arena - she was asking for study benefits to be reinstated after personally wasting a shitload of taxpayers money.
She deserved everything she got.

If a politician was operating that kind of double standard, you'd be into one of your stupid and incoherent rants about it.

If the government had granted further assistance to someone already earning that coin (and who had recieved, and wasted, nine and half grand for a failed business venture), you'd be the first to complain.

[mashman]

And you're a stinking hypocrite.
The woman took her situation into the political arena - she was asking for study benefits to be reinstated after personally wasting a shitload of taxpayers money.
She deserved everything she got.

If a politician was operating that kind of double standard, you'd be into one of your stupid and incoherent rants about it.

If the government had granted further assistance to someone already earning that coin (and who had recieved, and wasted, nine and half grand for a failed business venture), you'd be the first to complain.

She tried and failed at starting business or two, hardly a new thing. I'm surprised you see that as a waste?

What do you mean IF. They're only incoherent because you don't understand them... other people do thicko

bwaaaaa ha ha ha haaaaa... but I wasn't complaining and no I wouldn't complain about it, so you're wrong, again. Plenty of fucktards waste a million times that of the lady in question, of our money too, and I don't see you hopping up and down about that. Elitist Hypocrite

[blue rider]

Tar the beneficiaries!

I had a nice wee lapse of sanity last year and got allowed $150 a week from the gubbermint, which was far better than nothing I must say.
That sent all my savings out the window, and many plans.
I'm attempting to pool money to start a small business, yet some cum-bucket-baby-spitter is getting $565 more a week than I was? Great system, make the mad, unstable guy live on rice, give the other everything else.


I'll stop crying now

this is another $ amount that to me makes no sense, what for did you receive $ 150 - food , accommodation, living expenses ? What for?


how are benefits calculated in NZ? What is the basis for any monetary assistance, it seems to be arbitrary and up to the individual caseworker?
are there no puplic tables that show who can expect what in cases of a.unemployment i.e. x% of last wages after tax, dpb. i.e. x $ per child,
how is a accommodation benefit calculated, as i believe this might be a bigger benefit paid out by large, especially in Auckland where affordable rents have become something of an urban legend.

It seems to me that with just these anecdotes we are falling under the divide and conquer policy. And I do believe that benefits are needed, as people don't have any assurance of job stability, permanent good health, that maybe the desired child is born sick, and heavens forbid we get old, and really do we want to compete with our grand children for a MacDo job when we are 75.

But i would appreciate transparency on account of the Government (any shade of colour) as to how benefits are calculated, adjusted for inflation, taxed (if applicable) and paid out.

[Oscar]

She tried and failed at starting business or two, hardly a new thing. I'm surprised you see that as a waste?

What do you mean IF. They're only incoherent because you don't understand them... other people do thicko

bwaaaaa ha ha ha haaaaa... but I wasn't complaining and no I wouldn't complain about it, so you're wrong, again. Plenty of fucktards waste a million times that of the lady in question, of our money too, and I don't see you hopping up and down about that. Elitist Hypocrite

The waste I see is the taxpayers money being used to provide a lifestyle and career for this serial loser.

"They're only incoherent because you don't understand them..." I love that - you post garbage and it's my fault if I can't decipher your fetid ravings. tells us again about how you wanna abolish money

[mashman]

The waste I see is the taxpayers money being used to provide a lifestyle and career for this serial loser.

"They're only incoherent because you don't understand them..." I love that - you post garbage and it's my fault if I can't decipher your fetid ravings. tells us again about how you wanna abolish money

baaaaaaaaa

[Oscar]

baaaaaaaaa

Is that all you've got?
You call me an elitist thicko and then a sheep.

I am neither.

It's just that your level of discourse automatically makes anyone you're arguing with look incredibly smart.

[mashman]

Is that all you've got?
You call me an elitist thicko and then a sheep.

I am neither.

It's just that your level of discourse automatically makes anyone you're arguing with look incredibly smart.

baaaaaaaaaa

[Oscar]

baaaaaaaaaa

Feel free to add this to your sig line:

It's just that your level of discourse automatically makes anyone you're arguing with look incredibly smart.

[ducatilover]

this is another $ amount that to me makes no sense, what for did you receive $ 150 - food , accommodation, living expenses ? What for?

It was for everything:
Food
Rent/board
Living expenses
"trasnport"
My mental health recovery...(that didn't happen, funny that)
Mental rehabilitation and phych visits

Needless to say, it was not enough.

[blue rider]

It was for everything:
Food
Rent/board
Living expenses
"trasnport"
My mental health recovery...(that didn't happen, funny that)
Mental rehabilitation and phych visits

Needless to say, it was not enough.

how was this calculated...what was the basis for this amount. obviously it is not enough, so how did they came up with the number.

that's what i would like to know. How is a benefit calculated. And once this question is answered and the numbers and tables made available to all, stories of the lazy people making millions on benefits should stop, because everyone will know what to expect when applying for a benefit.

[ducatilover]

how was this calculated...what was the basis for this amount. obviously it is not enough, so how did they came up with the number.

that's what i would like to know. How is a benefit calculated. And once this question is answered and the numbers and tables made available to all, stories of the lazy people making millions on benefits should stop, because everyone will know what to expect when applying for a benefit.

Dart board of numbers? Or less money for the more needy in the hopes that they will top themselves?

I know they factor in mortgages, kids, medical expenses (maybe you have to apply for these? I did)
And the weekly living allowance vaies from area to area (I think) so an Auckland resident will get more than an Apiti resident, in theory.

It's all on the piss if you ask me, I was a high risk person (even got that in writing ) for doing something stupid
(suicide or something else entirely silly), was paying rent, attempting to eat (fortunately my mind set made that cheap) and play with bikes (seems therapeutic for me) and I got less than a younger person living at home

I don't get it.