I'm not sure I like 'plate reading technology'

[Laava]

The BP stations have had plate reading tech for a while now but not sure if it is every station or just a trial run. It was specifically to stop drive offs from previous offenders. The pumps shut down automatically so I was told by the operators at BP Riverside.

[oldrider]

Scenario...
Your car/bike gets stolen...this plate reading technology has it police hands within hours...would that be acceptable?

Yes!!! ... If only these things worked like that .... but usually works in favour of criminals here! (well it seems that way anyway)

[duckonin]

Scenario...
Your car/bike gets stolen...this plate reading technology has it police hands within hours...would that be acceptable?

Do you actually believe what you wrote ?

[Maha]

Yes!!! ... If only these things worked like that .... but usually works in favour of criminals here! (well it seems that way anyway)

So...this new plate reading technology has the real possiblilty of turning that tide?

Do you actually believe what you wrote ?

Ok ...within a day or two...point was (incase you missed it) that there are pros and cons with almost every new bit of technology introduced.
Not eveyone will see the true potential/benefits. Living in a negative world is by choice.
Like I said earlier...nothing to hide, nothing to fear.

[Laava]

The sad part is that all the tax and ratepayers will be the ones who will pay for the setup costs for this in the long run while the dodgers will keep dodging.
Bit like the ignition disablers in drunk peoples cars. I actually resent having my hard earned tax dollars spent like this. Drunks are smart enough to just sell their shitbox car and get another one.

[GrayWolf]

The sad part is that all the tax and ratepayers will be the ones who will pay for the setup costs for this in the long run while the dodgers will keep dodging.
Bit like the ignition disablers in drunk peoples cars. I actually resent having my hard earned tax dollars spent like this. Drunks are smart enough to just sell their shitbox car and get another one.

Guess it comes down to, pay your Rego, Get a WOF, don't try to drive pissed..........
where's the problem?

[caseye]

The problem lies in the eventual and completely predictable misuse of these very smart pieces of equipment.
It's OK, now while all they do is filter known baddy cars from the rest.
What happens when Farmers want to know which other shops Joe blogs goes to and pays for the information that this sort of camera makes available?
How far down this track do we go with any of this sort of technology before our every move is monitored and our so called personal life is able to be exposed for the benefit of any and everyone who wants to know?
It's a to edged sword, catch criminals! Fine go for it.
Be able at the push of a button to determine that Joe Blogs left Ekatahuna at 2pm and arrived in Tirau at 6pm heres your ticket! regardless of the fact that no one was injured, upset or otherwise deprived, but you see OUR CAMERA doesn't lie, he was speeding and now he's a criminal. Good Idea???
State given more control is never a good thing, we already want ( op's sorry, most unemployed dole bludging drug using hippies) the govt to run their lives for them, I damn well don't.
Do You?

[Laava]

Guess it comes down to, pay your Rego, Get a WOF, don't try to drive pissed..........
where's the problem?

I don't have a problem with that at all. But I am sick of subsidising those that don't, such as the intended many that may require ignition immobilisers fitted. You can be sure that they won't be the ones paying for it. As usual.

[p.dath]

I'm happy for it to be rolled out. Just another tool like lasers/speed cameras, etc.

There will always be some abuse of any system - with or without tools.

[george formby]

How the cameras are doing in the UK......

The Guardian

[Akzle]

A vehicle is not a right. There are responsibilities. Otherwise take the bus

Life has fewer concerns if you don't behave like a cock

oh shit. a vehicle isn't a right?
well.. who gets to decide who can own a vehicle, please, do tell. who do i have to beg to get my responsibility-laden "priviledge" to own a vehicle?

nothing to do with behaving the cock. who the hell has the right to dictate what i'm doing, if it's not harming anyone else?

I've talked to the neighbors, pleaded with them, then warned them - nothing worked. So I used the law.

that's pretty vengeful. i maintain your attitude would not be welcome on any marae.

The problem lies in the eventual and completely predictable misuse of these very smart pieces of equipment
.... State given more control is never a good thing, we already want ( op's sorry, most unemployed dole bludging drug using hippies) the govt to run their lives for them, I damn well don't.
Do You?

what about employed drug using hippies?

[schrodingers cat]

So you're assuming no rego means an uninsured, unsafe vehicle? and no contribution to ACC? I can go along with the later, as at least some of those would be the owners only vehicle. But unsafe? fuck off, just because unsafe vehicles wouldn't get a wof, it doesn't mean any vehicle without one is unsafe, and no rego doesn't mean no wof anyway; I keep my bike wof'd so I'll only get half the non-compliance fine.

I guess if your opinion is shared by the sheeple then there will be a market for quick change plates. Personally, I'd prefer it stay about safety instead of revenue.

Having a current WOF does not mean that the vehicle is safe, or that it's going to be driven safely. I see plenty of vehicles which are legal, yet the driver is too busy using their phone or playing with the stereo to drive properly.

Read again very carefully. The statement I made was 'No guarentee of MINIMUM safety standards' which is the purpose of WOF checks

Good luck with keeping that WOF current.

No judgement was passed on driving ability or standards.

Nice to hear from you two rebels tho. Keep 'sticking it to the man'
REspec

[schrodingers cat]

oh shit. a vehicle isn't a right?
well.. who gets to decide who can own a vehicle, please, do tell. who do i have to beg to get my responsibility-laden "priviledge" to own a vehicle?

Have you finished trying to be the voice of reason and retaken your stance as 'outside of OUR society' blah blah. Fucking hypocrite.

Wants the benefits. Too selfish to accept we're all in this together.

[Akzle]

Have you finished trying to be the voice of reason and retaken your stance as 'outside of OUR society' blah blah. Fucking hypocrite.

Wants the benefits. Too selfish to accept we're all in this together.

me? reasonable? when ever!?

what benefits?

i accept that we're all in it together. difference is that when the mothership comes back: you're fucked.

[p.dath]

oh shit. a vehicle isn't a right?
well.. who gets to decide who can own a vehicle, please, do tell. who do i have to beg to get my responsibility-laden "priviledge" to own a vehicle?

Well, you can seperate with your cash to buy most things, so yes, you can buy a vehicle, but that is not so much a right. You just have to find someone willing to sell you the vehicle for what you are prepared to pay for it.

You then have a right to use that vehicle on your private land, or anyone else's private land that has given you consent.

However what is not a right is to then use that vehicle on a public road. The laws governing the process to use a vehicle on a public road were created long ago, and kept mostly intact by Government after Government - as per the wishes of the people that have been represented over this extended period of time. Now not everyone may share the exact same sentiments, but because of the extend peiod of time the general principle of the legilsation has been intact you have to assume that the generations of people it has served have been mostly happy.