If you are scared of bullets

[Maha]

....don't join the armed forces.
When the Country you are serving, is asked to align with other country's in a war torn area of the world, there is reasonable chance it won end well for all.
You can't run home just because you have lost a few points.
Stay and fight on for those mates that have fallen before you. Thats your job.
(directed at those who call to for the troops to be brought home)

The NZ solders serving overseas, are brave young men and women.

[FJRider]

The troops there know that.

[Maha]

The troops there know that.

Yes. I have since added (directed at those who call to for the troops to be brought home) for those that would miss that....
It is what I would say to the over reactive.

[Edbear]

Yes. I have since added (directed at those who call to for the troops to be brought home) for those that would miss that....
It is what I would say to the over reactive.

Wotchu talkin' 'bout Willis..? People don't over-react..!

[imdying]

The NZ solders serving overseas, are brave young men.

That is likely to be the case, but they're also puppets who're dying unnecessarily in a war that has nothing to do with them or this country. But it's sure better that we send those sacrifices to the slaughter than having to spend more on commodities

[5150]

Heros... they sure are. But who's dirty war are they fighting?

[Maki]

....don't join the armed forces.
When the Country you are serving, is asked to align with other country's in a war torn area of the world, there is reasonable chance it won end well for all.
You can't run home just because you have lost a few points.
Stay and fight on for those mates that have fallen before you. Thats your job.
(directed at those who call to for the troops to be brought home)

The NZ solders serving overseas, are brave young men.

What good will staying and fighting do for the fallen mates? Will it put a smile on their faces? Will it make their sacrifice more "meaningful"?

I find asking people to risk their lives for the purpose of appeasing the USA immoral. Of course they did join the armed forces and in that case they have agreed to do as they are told and fulfill the most outrageous mission. They are essentially slaves.

Given the NZ track record I wonder why anyone would agree to join the armed forces. You risk death, disease and even deformities to your descendants.

[nudemetalz]

Good thread, Maha.

On a sad note,..I see 3 more of our soldiers have been killed

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/asia/75...oldiers-killed

[Paul in NZ]

Heros... they sure are. But who's dirty war are they fighting?

Thats actually really hard to define... Just about every army thats gone into that hell hole has never been short of a darn good reason to do so. (darned good reasons are of course entirely subjective)

I'll bet you a goats skin full of processed opium poppies that your average local is heartily sick of the whole bloody thing as well and equally sick of religious nut jobs telling them what for. About the only people not queuing up to have a lash are the Chinese...

It would be the ultimate in bad luck to be born there... You are on a hiding to nothing no matter what...

[HenryDorsetCase]

The NZ solders serving overseas, are brave young men/women.

Absolutely.


The question as to whtether, and what interests are served by them being there is the question though.

[HenryDorsetCase]

also. anyone sensible is scared of bullets.

[Edbear]

also. anyone sensible is scared of bullets.

Or anything that small travelling that fast...

[Bald Eagle]

While it is a tragedy for the families concerned, the young men probably joined up for the subsidized trade training and the World travel.

They neglected to realise however that it is part of the basic job description of a soldier to kill or be killed.

[NighthawkNZ:Me]

When the Country you are serving, is asked to align with other country's in a war torn area of the world, there is reasonable chance it won end well for all.

I find asking people to risk their lives for the purpose of appeasing the USA immoral.

We didn't go in to Afghanistan under pressure form the US and or any other country for that... we went in under a UN mandate for peace keeping and rebuilding. Big difference...

Problem is many people forget is before you send in the peace keepers, you need to have peace and to get peace you need the peace makers make peace.

Anyway the soldiers are doing their job, they do know the dangers, they joined the NZDF to protect your freedoms and the freedoms of NZ, and our interests. If you disagree what our intersts are or your freedoms are, take it up with the people that sent them their, don't down our troops, but support them.

RIP and thank you to all that have served in the past and in the future.

[oneofsix]

We didn't go in to Afghanistan under pressure form the US and or any other country for that... we went in under a UN mandate for peace keeping and rebuilding. Big difference...

Problem is many people forget is before you send in the peace keepers, you need to have peace and to get peace you need the peace makers make peace.

Anyway the soldiers are doing their job, they do know the dangers, they joined the NZDF to protect your freedoms and the freedoms of NZ, and our interests. If you disagree what our intersts are or your freedoms are, take it up with the people that sent them their, don't down our troops, but support them.

RIP and thank you to all that have served in the past and in the future.

"peace keepers" are sent in once the war has finished but before peace is stable. The hope being they can stabilise the peace. in Afghanistan the Taliban never agreed the war was over.

I fully agree with your last two paragraphs.