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    Morgan you twat

    Who the fuck pulled Mr Morgans chain?
    He's made some good investments over the years and made a stack of cash. This does not make him the all knowledgeable god on motorcycle safety, make recommendation and the like.
    I'm surprised they even print his dribble outside of an adventure ride.

    Get back in your hole you twat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeey01 View Post
    Who the fuck pulled Mr Morgans chain?
    He's made some good investments over the years and made a stack of cash. This does not make him the all knowledgeable god on motorcycle safety, make recommendation and the like.
    I'm surprised they even print his dribble outside of an adventure ride.

    Get back in your hole you twat.
    Whether we agree with his article/comments/views or not doesn't mean we should call him names! Gareth has spent some time thinking, researching and analysing the data before coming to his views and his contribution is worthy of debate. The fact that I have analysed the same data and come to quite different views doesn't mean I should run him into the ground and neither should you. It would be better if we could play the game not the man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrKiwi View Post
    ... his contribution is worthy of debate. ...
    Oh, we used to dream of being able to 'debate' things with the man. But alas, we all know that he does not allow debate.
    And for that alone he deserves the aforementioned title...
    Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MSTRS View Post
    Oh, we used to dream of being able to 'debate' things with the man. But alas, we all know that he does not allow debate.
    And for that alone he deserves the aforementioned title...
    I wasn't necessarily referring to debating things with the man himself, but debating the issues he raises among us without necessarily resorting to name calling. Debunk what he says, I'm just not into debunking anyone personally for their views.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrKiwi View Post
    I wasn't necessarily referring to debating things with the man himself, but debating the issues he raises among us without necessarily resorting to name calling. Debunk what he says, I'm just not into debunking anyone personally for their views.
    It's not the fact that he holds said views that gets him called a twat. It's the fact that he's not willing to enter into debate over them. This makes him a religious zealot in my book.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeey01 View Post
    Who the fuck pulled Mr Morgans chain?
    He's made some good investments over the years and made a stack of cash. This does not make him the all knowledgeable god on motorcycle safety, make recommendation and the like.
    I'm surprised they even print his dribble outside of an adventure ride.

    Get back in your hole you twat.
    Quote Originally Posted by swbarnett View Post
    It's not the fact that he holds said views that gets him called a twat. It's the fact that he's not willing to enter into debate over them. This makes him a religious zealot in my book.
    I'm joining the club.

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    I was crossing the Kahdung Lah when G Morgan was tossing off over spread sheets.
    He is a wanker with an agenda, and that makes him fair target in the riders real world. MHO

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bald Eagle View Post
    You didn't seriously expect it to achieve anything did you?
    What you said, sir. That manouevre was simply the ol' "two birds with one stone" ploy: pay lip service to a pretence of consultation and involvement, and steal some more money from riders to be redirected to someone's agenda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voltaire View Post
    NO, I don't have the attention span or memory retention to read long reports.....does Woodhouse have a Wiki I can read in a few minutes?
    But it was written in the 60's thats a long long long time ago....
    The Woodhouse report rewards careful reading. As for the fact it was written decades ago, that's not an argument against its application; saying it is, is much like saying the Magna Carta was written quite a few centuries ago so it embodies principles now irrelevant. The essence of the Woodhouse report is no fault compensation, so that regardless of how your accident happened, whether caused by yourself or by other people, you didn't have to rely upon the "legal lottery" of applying for compensation through the courts. One can disagree with that precept; but Justice Woodhouse's arguments remain timely and well reasoned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RDJ View Post
    ,.... but Justice Woodhouse's arguments remain timely and well reasoned.
    Of course. But that isn't stopping the fecking pollies (who know better ) from dealing the death of a thousand cuts to the whole wonderful idea.
    Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MSTRS View Post
    Of course. But that isn't stopping the fecking pollies (who know better ) from dealing the death of a thousand cuts to the whole wonderful idea.
    It's got me fukt how the original intent's remained reasonably intact for 45 years. At the time, having instituted a mandatory scheme I gave it no more than 5 before they got their fingers in the till.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean1 View Post
    It's got me fukt how the original intent's remained reasonably intact for 45 years. At the time, having instituted a mandatory scheme I gave it no more than 5 before they got their fingers in the till.
    True, that. Think we're nearing the end game now.
    Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean1 View Post
    It's got me fukt how the original intent's remained reasonably intact for 45 years. At the time, having instituted a mandatory scheme I gave it no more than 5 before they got their fingers in the till.
    Possibly because up till now, the pollies, despite their incompetence, have been primarily trying to do what is best for New Zealand.

    The current "leadership" seems to more about currying favour with world financiers. (yeah, I'm a conspiracy theorist)
    it's not a bad thing till you throw a KLR into the mix.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pete376403 View Post
    Possibly because up till now, the pollies, despite their incompetence, have been primarily trying to do what is best for New Zealand.

    The current "leadership" seems to more about currying favour with world financiers. (yeah, I'm a conspiracy theorist)
    Personally I think they are following the "I dunno what to do so I will do what I know" politician's agenda. When we have socialist lawyer univeristy professors in power we get socialist lawyer uni prof incompetence. When we have capitalist banker uni graduates in pwer we get c*b*u*g incompetence... they are not efficient enough to be effective conspirators...

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    Are we trying to debate what keeps the politicians wanting to do their work??? I thought all knew that they are in it for one reason only: To hoover up as much as possible for them selves before they are voted out.

    And as the writing is on the wall for Key and his assembly we will, in their last bit of being in power, see decisions that will create positive ripples for their wallets after they are ousted, made without any consideration given to how it will affect the ones they are supposedly there to care for.

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