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    Quote Originally Posted by Scuba_Steve View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by slofox View Post
    OK

    We have the Vista machine back from computer hospital, all working fine again after a re-install of Vista.

    Now I have to re-install Office 2010. It reckons the key code is registered to "another user" of the machine. This is probably true since I bought the puter second hand.

    Is there a work-around for this or do I stick with Libreoffice?
    There is usually a link with an 0800 number you can use to call Microsoft. Tell them you have had the machine re-imaged, and they'll usually give you a new code you can use.

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    FFS the linux hippies on here spout some shite. Ring the 0800 number the software pops up with (0800 676 334 I think)

    Nobody in bangalore, it's all punching in numbers on your telephone. Takes all of 5 minutes.

    Vista...yeah...it's kinda shite. Should've asked local tech to install a "trial" version of windows 7 but that's called hindsight. Without UAC, speeshal efects disabled, auto updates set to "manual" and latest service pack it's reasonably ok.
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    I had a recent experience with Vista that took 55 minutes to resolve.

    I turned on the PC to play 'Night Garden' for my son before bed.

    Unfortunately there were updates pending

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    Quote Originally Posted by scracha View Post
    FFS the linux hippies on here spout some shite. Ring the 0800 number the software pops up with (0800 676 334 I think)

    Nobody in bangalore, it's all punching in numbers on your telephone. Takes all of 5 minutes.

    Vista...yeah...it's kinda shite. Should've asked local tech to install a "trial" version of windows 7 but that's called hindsight. Without UAC, speeshal efects disabled, auto updates set to "manual" and latest service pack it's reasonably ok.
    Having just read the thread , I didnt see anything about Linux ....but using linux , for all my computing needs , ,,,can I say one thing then I promise I wont say another word ,promise .

    that licence thing is a pain in the arse , ,so glad I dont have to deal with it

    There

    Ill be quiet now

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    ps what wrong with libre office or what ever they call it now
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    Quote Originally Posted by slofox View Post
    OK
    Is there a work-around for this or do I stick with Libreoffice?
    OpenOffice.org? and I think but could be wrong, Libreoffice is based on OpenOffice.org.

    We use at work and at home and has had no problem opening any MS Documents

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    Quote Originally Posted by NighthawkNZ View Post
    OpenOffice.org? and I think but could be wrong, Libreoffice is based on OpenOffice.org.

    We use at work and at home and has had no problem opening any MS Documents

    iiiiiiiii'm pretty sure i covered this. and everything else that's been said. ...
    on page 1. ...
    shortly after the OP.


    but aaaaaanyway. asides from a (very) few problems with docx and more, xlsx, open office shits all over M$. and it's free. and it shits all over M$. for free.


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    Quote Originally Posted by NighthawkNZ View Post
    OpenOffice.org? and I think but could be wrong, Libreoffice is based on OpenOffice.org.

    We use at work and at home and has had no problem opening any MS Documents
    MS Office has problems opening MS Documents - if the converters aren't installed.
    trying to get work to update to a more modern version of Office, but its a bit of a hard sell. When the average office worker is using outlook, word and excel, and Office 2k does this for the most part reasonably well, management can't really see the benefit of spending about $500 per seat to get office 2010 so the average office worker can use outlook, word and excel. And office 2013 is just around the corner FFS.
    Office 2000, 2003, 2007, 2010. Has productivity for users *really* gone up by the amount that these "upgrades cost?
    (Oh and I tried to steer the boss towards Linux - he's American and wouldn't have anything to do with godless communists)
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    Quote Originally Posted by pete376403 View Post
    When the average office worker is using outlook, word and excel, and Office 2k does this for the most part reasonably well, management can't really see the benefit of spending about $500 per seat to get office 2010
    Uh... when last did you update your computers? Most licences are OEM, ie, for that PC. New PC, new licence.

    Jaysus, got rid of the last 2000 several years ago... wait, I lie, there is 1 or 2, virtualised that have simple but crucial jobs. Outlook 2000 was rather limiting in pst files, getting unstable with only 10-20k of emails in the inbox. That said actually, even 2010 behaves like a crippled dog when it hits 8GB ish.

    edit: Office 2010 H&B is more like $320 per seat, as long as you only have the basic requirements.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YellowDog View Post
    I had a recent experience with Vista that took 55 minutes to resolve.

    I turned on the PC to play 'Night Garden' for my son before bed.

    Unfortunately there were updates pending
    Thus the bit I'd posted about disabling automagic updates on Vista.


    Quote Originally Posted by Brian d marge View Post
    Having just read the thread , I didnt see anything about Linux ....but using linux , for all my computing needs , ,,,can I say one thing then I promise I wont say another word ,promise .
    Oh come on....SMOKEU, Axzlewhitzizface and the usual suspects were on the case. At least no dorks posted "Get a mac, it just works" etc etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by Brian d marge View Post
    that licence thing is a pain in the arse , ,so glad I dont have to deal with it
    That having to be careful about what hardware will work with my computer is a PITA, so glad I don't have to deal with it.
    That having to restrict my choice of software to about 5% of what's available on Window is a PITA, so glad I don't have to deal with it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Brian d marge View Post
    ps what wrong with libre office or what ever they call it now
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    For 90% of users, nothing. That's probably why Microshaft have been forced to provide Office Starter for free with Win 7 (presumably Win 8 too) which is fine for 90% of users.

    Don't get me wrong. I use Linux a LOT for file, proxy, web and mailservers (and even run VM's with wait for it....Windows) but it's just not suitable for jo public workers desktop. Once I find a distro where I can go 6 months without using a command shell then my opinion will change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scracha View Post
    Thus the bit I'd posted about disabling automagic updates on Vista.



    Oh come on....SMOKEU, Axzlewhitzizface and the usual suspects were on the case. At least no dorks posted "Get a mac, it just works" etc etc.


    That having to be careful about what hardware will work with my computer is a PITA, so glad I don't have to deal with it.
    That having to restrict my choice of software to about 5% of what's available on Window is a PITA, so glad I don't have to deal with it.

    For 90% of users, nothing. That's probably why Microshaft have been forced to provide Office Starter for free with Win 7 (presumably Win 8 too) which is fine for 90% of users.

    Don't get me wrong. I use Linux a LOT for file, proxy, web and mailservers (and even run VM's with wait for it....Windows) but it's just not suitable for jo public workers desktop. Once I find a distro where I can go 6 months without using a command shell then my opinion will change.
    they must have been shifted to pd

    Ive struck , incompatible hardware once , possibly twice wifi dongle and cannon printer ( but just used a different driver ) the dongle I couldnt resolve , and recieved a ban from the ubuntu forum ' from a kiwi !) , shortly afterwards they produced a list of things that worked

    Honestly all been good this end , the few cock ups have been my doing and the forum usually sorted it.

    when I really cocked up , live cd , files onto another hd , reinstall , 30 min odd

    CAD, is an area where Linux falls down , but hey its free ,, and err works

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    Quote Originally Posted by scracha View Post
    Oh come on....SMOKEU, Axzlewhitzizface and the usual suspects were on the case. At least no dorks posted "Get a mac, it just works" etc etc.
    Get a mac it just works etc etc


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    Quote Originally Posted by pete376403 View Post
    . Has productivity for users *really* gone up by the amount that these "upgrades cost?
    In the govt environment I support I think productivity went down when they "upgraded" to Office2007. The users couldn't find anything in the new ribbon menus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scracha View Post
    Once I find a distro where I can go 6 months without using a command shell then my opinion will change.
    6 months with no bash shell?! Fuck that! I use command line Windows just about every day so that's a bit hard to imagine.

    As for Office 2010, it's free. Download a torrent of it then download KMS activator and it's free for 180 days before you have to reactivate it which is done with a few clicks of a mouse and takes about 30 seconds.

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