Where have all the Post Classic race bikes gone?

[Skunk]

So that proves that there are Post Classic Racers out there just not racing with the VMCC.

They don't know what to do when they get near Hamilton so turn around and go home...

[codgyoleracer]

They don't know what to do when they get near Hamilton so turn around and go home...

This appears to be generally true, Had a truckload of them at nats meeting at Hampton last year, then a dribble turned up for the final nats at Taupo a week later. Fair weather travellers :-)

[roadracingoldfart]

At Round 4 one bike was lapped (from memory - mylaps is down). Corner speeds are similar and straight line speed is the only concern - and the fast bike tends to have a good rider on board in this class.
Round 3 we moved a rider out of Clubmans and into the Streetstock class because that was safer. Worked very well with his riding. (Someone can now find a rule in the rule book to hit me with. I'm damned either way.)

Unfortunately we don't aways know how someone is going to perform on the track in their class and what issues will come up before the meeting but we do the best we can to sort them. Bracket racing is an open invitation to have these issues.

I was watching Posties at Round 3 wondering how to fix what I saw. Round 4 and the issue was gone... Two sleep deprived nights over nothing in the end.

Cant you just enact a time qualification rule here , i agree some bikes are really bloody fast compared to others in the same race but the combined class in the catagory is always going to allow that. Maybe the meetings have to be 2 day events and the fast guys on Sat and the slower guys on Sun. Billy thinks i live in the past i see but FFS , last round we have Neil doing 1.15s on the 600 F2 posty and some Senior bikes didnt get close to the teens. its historical and entrenched because riders actually RACE , that means go really fast if possible.

[codgyoleracer]

[QUOTE=rustys;1130384854] Thats a load rubbish Glen, i am on the pension and still doing it.



Yeah one of them is an untruth :-)

[Skunk]

Cant you just enact a time qualification rule here , i agree some bikes are really bloody fast compared to others in the same race but the combined class in the catagory is always going to allow that. Maybe the meetings have to be 2 day events and the fast guys on Sat and the slower guys on Sun. Billy thinks i live in the past i see but FFS , last round we have Neil doing 1.15s on the 600 F2 posty and some Senior bikes didnt get close to the teens. its historical and entrenched because riders actually RACE , that means go really fast if possible.

It used to be that if you didn't qualify you went to Clubmans. Now there are Clubmans riders who are (and read this carefully) as fast as the lead bikes in the class the slow has came from - but the fast Clubmans guys don't qualify for the class they should be in. Catch 22.

Running fast on Sat and slow on Sun? You're talking about doubling the cost and halving the income. You don't do anything with accounts and budgeting I hope...

[malcy25]

They don't know what to do when they get near Hamilton so turn around and go home...

That last push to get from Hamilton to the Bombays when heading uphill (ie northwards) is a hard one, that many try and few complete.

[miper]

[QUOTE=rustys;1130387247]

Well the change in classes to 0-400, 401-600, and 600 and above didn't work now did it???


I can't really understand why it has'nt worked, the F3 bike is cheap bike to run, there are plenty of them around, and also a good starting off point for riders to get out and have a go. At the start of the season there were 9 in F3, now there are about 3 left, so i would not critisize the class yet, give it some time to get rolling.
Its the sign of the times, i can almost bet its a money issuie with lots of people out there at this time, when things get tight the toys have to go.

Definatley the right way to go, it would not have made any difference if the class was left like last year, we would have the same results.

I gota agree here. For a returnee after a 22 year hiatus this class is awesome. Having the option to race a bike again reasonably cheaply and compete against similar machines on a bike that will always remain "one of the latest and greatest" is awesome. The seperated classes should and I believe will increase in numbers as people realize what a comparitivly level playing field it is, first two rounds there were 5-6 riders all within 2-3 secs of each other in the f3 class.
As for the drop in numbers so far through out the series, in my case I would have been there but work shipped my off to aussie for 9 weeks so not possible. I suspect these sorts of things have occured with others and will hopefully see an increase again for the last couple of rounds.

[npoole]

Hi I have just spent what seems like days to find out where motorcycling racing happens in NZ. I have just joined VMCC and MCNZ, what Im trying to do is go racing after an aquiantence of mine introduced me to the track, at a meet at taupo. I to say after owning many motorcycles over my lifetime so far this was the best day out I have ever had on a motorcycle. No Cars,everyone going the same way and no speed restrictions. just raciong!.

I still dont know if I have joined the right clubs or affiliations to go racing, guess im running on blind faith, but after that first meet I just want to go and do it all over again and again.

I guess what im saying is, there has got be an easier way to get people into the sport,must be guys like me of around the 40 years old range that have riden motorcycles through a long period of there lifes and would love the opportunity to go racing...far safer than riding riding on the open road!
But it seems that unless your in the crowd, no one would know that clubs exist, what classes are available to ride in and so on.

Take me for instance, lookin at bikes on trade me, with no idea if im lookin at the right bike for the right class.

Another point id like to make, motorcycle racing is a huge adrenalin rush, what teenage kid on the verge of going to do somethin "stupid" and against the law, wouldnt get a thrill out of putting there neck on the line witha hot "bucket".

I guess what Im sayin is "Man" make the sport more accessable to folk and thge numbers will come....

Will keep you posted on how I make out trying to get myself on the track.....still dont know what I have to buy, just want a 250cc and to go racing.

[Voltaire]

I bought a FXR 150 bucket for my son an I to play with, great bunch at Mt Welly track, only ever did a couple of races...but lots of practice Saturdays.

I'd never been on a track till last October, used to go to Puke to watch the classics every Feb thinking " that would be fun".
Sold my road going Ducati SS bought a Triumph Thruxton and did level 1 and 2 of the Superbike School .....best $800 I could have spent.
Then did a few track days with AMCC, finished off building my 1973 BMW R90, joined the CMCRR and have done about 4 race meets this year...awesome.
My times are pretty slow but the fun factor is huge.

[Billy]

Hi I have just spent what seems like days to find out where motorcycling racing happens in NZ. I have just joined VMCC and MCNZ, what Im trying to do is go racing after an aquiantence of mine introduced me to the track, at a meet at taupo. I to say after owning many motorcycles over my lifetime so far this was the best day out I have ever had on a motorcycle. No Cars,everyone going the same way and no speed restrictions. just raciong!.

I still dont know if I have joined the right clubs or affiliations to go racing, guess im running on blind faith, but after that first meet I just want to go and do it all over again and again.

I guess what im saying is, there has got be an easier way to get people into the sport,must be guys like me of around the 40 years old range that have riden motorcycles through a long period of there lifes and would love the opportunity to go racing...far safer than riding riding on the open road!
But it seems that unless your in the crowd, no one would know that clubs exist, what classes are available to ride in and so on.

Take me for instance, lookin at bikes on trade me, with no idea if im lookin at the right bike for the right class.

Another point id like to make, motorcycle racing is a huge adrenalin rush, what teenage kid on the verge of going to do somethin "stupid" and against the law, wouldnt get a thrill out of putting there neck on the line witha hot "bucket".

I guess what Im sayin is "Man" make the sport more accessable to folk and thge numbers will come....

Will keep you posted on how I make out trying to get myself on the track.....still dont know what I have to buy, just want a 250cc and to go racing.

PM sent,Should be able to help you get started

[wharfy]

Hi I have just spent what seems like days to find out where motorcycling racing happens in NZ. I have just joined VMCC and MCNZ, what Im trying to do is go racing after an aquiantence of mine introduced me to the track, at a meet at taupo. I to say after owning many motorcycles over my lifetime so far this was the best day out I have ever had on a motorcycle. No Cars,everyone going the same way and no speed restrictions. just raciong!.

I still dont know if I have joined the right clubs or affiliations to go racing, guess im running on blind faith, but after that first meet I just want to go and do it all over again and again.

I guess what im saying is, there has got be an easier way to get people into the sport,must be guys like me of around the 40 years old range that have riden motorcycles through a long period of there lifes and would love the opportunity to go racing...far safer than riding riding on the open road!
But it seems that unless your in the crowd, no one would know that clubs exist, what classes are available to ride in and so on.

Take me for instance, lookin at bikes on trade me, with no idea if im lookin at the right bike for the right class.

Another point id like to make, motorcycle racing is a huge adrenalin rush, what teenage kid on the verge of going to do somethin "stupid" and against the law, wouldnt get a thrill out of putting there neck on the line witha hot "bucket".

I guess what Im sayin is "Man" make the sport more accessable to folk and thge numbers will come....

Will keep you posted on how I make out trying to get myself on the track.....still dont know what I have to buy, just want a 250cc and to go racing.

Well youv'e joined the right clubs (you don't get a choice about MNZ ) and I'm a Vic Club Member

I don't know what you have so don't know what you need to buy - BUT the first things you must have are:
1/ An approved helmet that fits properly.
2/ Full leathers (one piece recommended)
3/ Good boots
4/ Leather gloves
5/ Back protector

The best you can afford in all of the above and the better they fit the better they save your arse (or head or hands or feet)

This thread will quickly fill up with opinions about what bike to get what class to race in and what mods to the bike etc. You can have great racing with a bog standard 150 (and get the learn from 12 year olds ) there is no upper limit - (I think Ducati have a pretty nice track bike for about $60,000)

In MY opinion a lot depends on where you plan on racing and how often.

Motorcycle Racing Factoid's
1/ It is the most fun you can have wearing leather - even (especially ?) if you enjoy pain !
2/ Only people who have never raced bikes think P is addictive and makes you crazy
3/ There are hundreds of experts on motorcycle racing - even (especially ?) people who have never done it

If you post to this thread you should be able to come up with at leat ONE motorcycle racing factoid to add to the list

Welcome aboard - One more of us and one less of them

[Skunk]

....Take me for instance, lookin at bikes on trade me, with no idea if im lookin at the right bike for the right class.

Another point id like to make, motorcycle racing is a huge adrenalin rush, what teenage kid on the verge of going to do somethin "stupid" and against the law, wouldnt get a thrill out of putting there neck on the line witha hot "bucket".

I guess what Im sayin is "Man" make the sport more accessable to folk and thge numbers will come....

Will keep you posted on how I make out trying to get myself on the track.....still dont know what I have to buy, just want a 250cc and to go racing.

I've done the best I can in my spare time: have a look here - http://www.vicclub.co.nz/info.php and let me know what I can do to improve it. I know how to get into racing so it's put together with hindsight. Your 'forward looking' eyes may show where the 'holes' are.

[Crasherfromwayback]

If you post to this thread you should be able to come up with at leat ONE motorcycle racing factoid to add to the list

Hospital food sucks serious arse.

[Petrolic]

Would love to get my 89 1100 slingshot race ready but need original forks as previous owners put later upside downs in. I Was waiting for my 04 r1 to become a classic but got some time to wait now.

[budda]

500/4 Pre72 racebike on TradeMe