Being seen at intersections

[Berries]

It does seem to help if they think it might be a cop bike for a fraction of a second or so though - Eh?

We don't got no cop bikes down here. Too cold for them apparently.

[FJRider]

We don't got no cop bikes down here. Too cold for them apparently.

We do on the odd occasion ... I recall one hitting a tree in Greymouth, heading north (the long way) after a "mission" in the Southern lands ...

[sootie]

We don't got no cop bikes down here. Too cold for them apparently.

You youngsters are a worry. Dunedin used to crawl with Cop Bikes in the 1960s.
We have a few of their old bikes preserved up here at MOTAT.
I thought they were still using them down there .......

[Hitcher]

I really only get the occasional smart arse trying to beat me now; and he has definitely seen me!

I smell carnage. Never make assumptions about what drivers of other vehicles may see or think.

[SuperMac]

Move about on the road (well, lane ) width, move through the driver's field of view and end up as far away from him as possible: 'Z Line'

http://the-ride-info.blogspot.co.uk/...roduction.html

http://the-ride-info.blogspot.co.uk/...on-vision.html

http://the-ride-info.blogspot.co.uk/...or-action.html

http://the-ride-info.blogspot.co.uk/...4-ouellet.html

http://the-ride-info.blogspot.co.uk/...-it-helps.html

[sootie]

for what it's worth...............
I have got 3 headlights on my Harley, and only one on my Aprilia...........
I definitely get a lot less hassle on the Harley...
(dressed in low vis black....)

Interesting, and accurate I suspect. Unique & bold forward (&rear) lighting is also very helpful to other riders in a group riding situation FWIIW.

[chasio]

Move about on the road (well, lane ) width, move through the driver's field of view and end up as far away from him as possible: 'Z Line'

http://the-ride-info.blogspot.co.uk/...roduction.html

http://the-ride-info.blogspot.co.uk/...on-vision.html

http://the-ride-info.blogspot.co.uk/...or-action.html

http://the-ride-info.blogspot.co.uk/...4-ouellet.html

http://the-ride-info.blogspot.co.uk/...-it-helps.html

Good stuff, thanks. I do this and I reckon it makes a difference. But I don't assume it has worked, if you know what I mean. Keep an eye on their wheels...

[wingnutt]

yeh the goldwing I ride, came standard with 5 forward running lights and I was astounded to find I wasn't seen at times
by cagers and only my defensive thoughts kept me safe.

I added 2 aux 35 watt lights down low, and the effect was instant, am now seen, although it still pays to watch of course.

I also added for added comfort, 2 strip LED white lights, which I'm told stick out like the proverbial.

I'm told the low aux lights tend to triangulate, and its this that cagers see first.

[Tigadee]

But.. the single biggest factor in being seen.. intimidate the hell out of people in cars. Cars get out of the way... literally..

So you wear a gang patch too, do ya?

[mylodon]

i find it's best if people don't see and try and react to you. a lot of people get confused about how fragile motorcyclists are and try to compensate, or get cranky and try and block, imho it's better to just stay away from problem drivers and scoot past the nice ones. the only thing i don't want is for someone to run into me from behind. so having good rear lights/indication - about all. that's all anyone needs to see anyways.

[Berries]

the only thing i don't want is for someone to run into me from behind. so having good rear lights/indication - about all. that's all anyone needs to see anyways.

Totally agree. You can't do much about the ones behind you, but you should be able to anticipate most of what happens to the side and in front of you.

[DMNTD:Me]

Totally agree. You can't do much about the ones behind you, but you should be able to anticipate most of what happens to the side and in front of you.

I tend to play the front brake lever to set off the brake light plus also ensure that I could scoot up the side the the vehicle ahead of me just in case

[Berries]

I don't stop.

[DMNTD:Me]

I don't stop.

Best you check your brakes

[sootie]

yeh the goldwing I ride, came standard with 5 forward running lights and I was astounded to find I wasn't seen at times
by cagers and only my defensive thoughts kept me safe.

I added 2 aux 35 watt lights down low, and the effect was instant, am now seen, although it still pays to watch of course.

I also added for added comfort, 2 strip LED white lights, which I'm told stick out like the proverbial.

I'm told the low aux lights tend to triangulate, and its this that cagers see first.

Wow, 5 forward lights & still invisible!
I guess the first & main message is that motorcyclist have to always be very very vigilant.
It seems a lot of riders are getting a second message though which is about playing the odds.
If cagers keep pulling out without seeing you; make yourself even more obvious in front & do whatever it takes.