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    Identifying forks and triples - please help, RGV250 and GSX-R 250 experts?

    Okay, here we go:

    So I bought a used set of forks for my 250cc Bandit (1992) because I have some pitting on the fork tubes which is eating fork seals and aftermarket tubes were super spendy. I found a cheap set.
    The seller gave me the frame number which is a Bandit 250, made in 1992/3, and told me the tubes were clean and unpitted. I got the forks today, and they're pitted to hell and useless. Anyway, that's a different matter.

    The forks are from an entirely different bike. Definitely Suzuki though as it has 'zuki ignition barrel with corresponding Suzuki key.
    Please refer to the photos below. I have a funny feeling they came off something like an early 90s GSXR 250 or RGV250, something with twin calipers.

    Does anyone have any idea what the fuck I have just had delivered to me?

    The fork tubes are 41mm diameter, I haven't measured the length of them but the length axle centre to top of tube is about 760mm when uncompressed. Top triple clamp looks like it's supposed to have clip-ons mounted below the clamp.

    Any help greatly appreciated. I'm trying very hard to return them and get my money back but if it all goes pear-shaped I'd at least like to know what I'm stuck with.

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    You want some advice - lightning strikes once, it does not strike twice!

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    One last photo of the whole kit and caboodle:

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    You want some advice - lightning strikes once, it does not strike twice!

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    None of my rgv250 forks have that mount above the caliper mounts

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    [QUOTE=GSF;1130390997]Okay, here we go:

    So I bought a used set of forks for my 250cc Bandit (1992) because I have some pitting on the fork tubes which is eating fork seals and aftermarket tubes were super spendy. I found a cheap set.
    The seller gave me the frame number which is a Bandit 250, made in 1992/3, and told me the tubes were clean and unpitted. I got the forks today, and they're pitted to hell and useless. Anyway, that's a different matter.
    The forks are from an entirely different bike. Definitely Suzuki though as it has 'zuki ignition barrel with corresponding Suzuki key.
    Please refer to the photos below. I have a funny feeling they came off something like an early 90s GSXR 250 or RGV250, something with twin calipers.

    Does anyone have any idea what the fuck I have just had delivered to me?

    There very rusty arent they seem they been near salt air i thought , i brought set forks from uk of ebay motofx there very good

    Athough i had pay around 300.00 in freight because the weight so brought both tripple clamps and fork legs

    they where exellent seals i didnt even bother changing the fork oil or checking it just bolted them on and they where fine

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    [QUOTE=actungbaby;1130391053]
    Quote Originally Posted by GSF View Post
    Okay, here we go:

    So I bought a used set of forks for my 250cc Bandit (1992) because I have some pitting on the fork tubes which is eating fork seals and aftermarket tubes were super spendy. I found a cheap set.
    The seller gave me the frame number which is a Bandit 250, made in 1992/3, and told me the tubes were clean and unpitted. I got the forks today, and they're pitted to hell and useless. Anyway, that's a different matter.
    The forks are from an entirely different bike. Definitely Suzuki though as it has 'zuki ignition barrel with corresponding Suzuki key.
    Please refer to the photos below. I have a funny feeling they came off something like an early 90s GSXR 250 or RGV250, something with twin calipers.

    Does anyone have any idea what the fuck I have just had delivered to me?

    There very rusty arent they seem they been near salt air i thought , i brought set forks from uk of ebay motofx there very good

    Athough i had pay around 300.00 in freight because the weight so brought both tripple clamps and fork legs

    they where exellent seals i didnt even bother changing the fork oil or checking it just bolted them on and they where fine
    Yep, they are very, very corroded. You can't see on the tubes, but the forward facing area of both tubes is speckled with corrosion and pits, looks like fly shit all over it.
    I bought these for $150 after being told the tubes were in good condition without corrosion. What turned up was useless junk.
    I wanted to get it done as cheaply as possible as I'm going to sell the 250 soon and I don't want to spend heaps on it - just nice clean tubes and it's good to go.

    Now, I fucked up by not asking for close up and detailed photos, but now I'm being ignored. I'm a very even-keeled kinda guy, it takes a lot to get me mad but right now I am fucking spewing over this.
    You want some advice - lightning strikes once, it does not strike twice!

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    Pretty sure they're not VJ21 forks. The clamps look all wrong to me.
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    Look like 400 Bandit units to me

    EDIT: The tapered LHS lower leg suggests Teapot GSX600f/750f
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    Quote Originally Posted by ducatilover View Post
    Look like 400 Bandit units to me

    EDIT: The tapered LHS lower leg suggests Teapot GSX600f/750f
    Definitely not 400 Bandit, those are pretty much the same as early 250 Bandits (like mine, they share most parts excluding engine and 'lectric bits). They're fucking weird and the tubes are about 40mm shorter than my existing ones.

    Doesn't look like Katana gear either, triples are wrong and forks wrong - just had a squizz at all the GSX600F/750F parts diagrams on BikeBandit and they're all different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GSF View Post
    Definitely not 400 Bandit, those are pretty much the same as early 250 Bandits (like mine, they share most parts excluding engine and 'lectric bits). They're fucking weird and the tubes are about 40mm shorter than my existing ones.

    Doesn't look like Katana gear either, triples are wrong and forks wrong - just had a squizz at all the GSX600F/750F parts diagrams on BikeBandit and they're all different.
    I thought the GSF400 ran 41mm forks and the 250 ran the smaller ones?
    As far as the legs go:
    It's a twin brake set up, like a 400 bandit with similar bolt spacing, so it's not a GS or other early model, the GSX600F has the taper on the LHS fork and not on the RHS
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul in NZ View Post
    Ha...Thats true but life is full horrible choices sometimes Merv. Then sometimes just plain stuff happens... and then some more stuff happens.....




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    Quote Originally Posted by ducatilover View Post
    I thought the GSF400 ran 41mm forks and the 250 ran the smaller ones?
    As far as the legs go:
    It's a twin brake set up, like a 400 bandit with similar bolt spacing, so it's not a GS or other early model, the GSX600F has the taper on the LHS fork and not on the RHS
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    Naw, two-fiddy Bandits have 41mm forks as well. I dunno about the later GJ77A Bandit 250s but nobody gives a shit about them anyway. I have learnt well over the ownership of my 250 that pretty much all 400 parts excluding engine, carb and 'lectrics will bolt straight on to my bike. Bandit 400 is one of my saved eBay searches!

    You're right, the Kat legs look very similar but in all the Katana RHS fork diagrams, it has one screw at the base which is pinching the axle.
    My RHS fork has two screws pinching the axle, it's hard to see in the photo.

    Oh fuck, I just wanna get rid of this awful thing.

    *Wait, sorry, the pinch bolt on Kats is on the left hand tapered side... mine's on the right which is not tapered.
    Last edited by GSF; 4th September 2012 at 22:39. Reason: Durr I got my right and my left confused hur hur hur
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    Shit, challenging one!
    I think the GSX1100F had the pinch bolt on that side?
    It's not Early Gixxer from what I can tell.
    Quote Originally Posted by Paul in NZ View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by ducatilover View Post
    Shit, challenging one!
    I think the GSX1100F had the pinch bolt on that side?
    It's not Early Gixxer from what I can tell.
    Yeah pretty sure it's not Gixxer. GSX1100F and G don't seem to have that mount about the two caliper mounts, which I'm presuming are for clips to hold the brake lines and stop 'em flapping about, and they also just have a single pinch bolt.

    Did I mention it seems oddly small? Like this came off a little bike. These tubes are about 40mm shorter than mine, which I think are approximately 590mm.

    So these are like 540mm/550 long fork tubes. As soon as I saw them I knew I had been sent the wrong thing because it was just too small to be a Bandit front end.
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    Get me the dimensions of the stanchion only.

    I have a list of such things as I sell brand new aftermarket forks
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    Quote Originally Posted by GSF View Post
    Yeah pretty sure it's not Gixxer. GSX1100F and G don't seem to have that mount about the two caliper mounts, which I'm presuming are for clips to hold the brake lines and stop 'em flapping about, and they also just have a single pinch bolt.

    Did I mention it seems oddly small? Like this came off a little bike. These tubes are about 40mm shorter than mine, which I think are approximately 590mm.

    So these are like 540mm/550 long fork tubes. As soon as I saw them I knew I had been sent the wrong thing because it was just too small to be a Bandit front end.
    I'm definately stumped, but it's okay cos I'm not a Suzuki fan
    I hope you can contact the chap and get a refund (or throw his bike in the sea)
    Quote Originally Posted by Paul in NZ View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by ducatilover View Post
    I'm definately stumped, but it's okay cos I'm not a Suzuki fan
    I hope you can contact the chap and get a refund (or throw his bike in the sea)
    Yeah, I have managed to get in touch with him - he says they definitely came off a 250 Bandit, which they may well have, the forks are same diameter and the steering stem looks like the same part. But he insists they are standard Bandit forks, despite all evidence to the contrary. I just got a text telling me that I should have "screw-in extensions" on the top of my fork tubes which accounts for the missing 40mm. Only thing on top of my tubes are the caps.

    From piccies and part diagrams I think they are a VJ21-type RGV250 forks, which accounts for the short tubes (found pics of an US-based VJ21 with identical sliders) that have been slotted into 41mm triples off another bike.

    He's trying to give me advice on how to make a non-standard part fit, when the issue is that I paid for one thing and received something different that is not for my bike and that I cannot use.
    You want some advice - lightning strikes once, it does not strike twice!

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