IWI - I want it

[imdying]

Trains... camps... no man... no problem.

[wharekura]

when will this shit end?

The beloved Owera speech gained pace but where were all the voters when speech giver went to Act. Why did the nats join with Maori in a collation when I am sure the votes from Maori aren't all that important - or are they? I too ask if the majority say end this race division, then why isnt it in force? I am sure we kiwis are not afraid of an Uruwera hunter uprising - so what is stopping govt to say "no more"

[HenryDorsetCase]

You guys haven't spotted that pattern yet? Don't forget that what you read on Stuff and Nanny Herald bears little relation to reality and is heavyily laced with right-wing propaganda . The only group left in NZ who can mount a credible challenge to the National Government's desire to sell off tax-payer funded assets are Maori. They have the legal means to do so and it appears they are taking the lead.

However the average Kiwi's blind racist rage at anything "IWI" based is being used to distract Whitey from the fact that his brown brethren are making a better fist of preventing these unwanted sales from going ahead.

Bravo comrade!!!

to the barricades!

[BoristheBiter]

You guys haven't spotted that pattern yet? Don't forget that what you read on Stuff and Nanny Herald bears little relation to reality and is heavyily laced with right-wing propaganda . The only group left in NZ who can mount a credible challenge to the National Government's desire to sell off tax-payer funded assets are Maori. They have the legal means to do so and it appears they are taking the lead.

However the average Kiwi's blind racist rage at anything "IWI" based is being used to distract Whitey from the fact that his brown brethren are making a better fist of preventing these unwanted sales from going ahead.

The only reason Iwi give a shit about it is they can see their gravy train disappearing so they are getting what they can.

the only pattern that is here is once again Maori want something for nothing an again the government have no backbone as it is easy to pay them off then give a shit, after all it's not their money they're using.

[jim.cox]

it is easy to pay them off then give a shit, after all it's not their money they're using.

The Govt are busy giving away our country to their rich mates.

Easier to slide a little to the Iwi to shut them up than to fight them

[caseye]

You guys haven't spotted that pattern yet? Don't forget that what you read on Stuff and Nanny Herald bears little relation to reality and is heavyily laced with right-wing propaganda . The only group left in NZ who can mount a credible challenge to the National Government's desire to sell off tax-payer funded assets are Maori. They have the legal means to do so and it appears they are taking the lead.

However the average Kiwi's blind racist rage at anything "IWI" based is being used to distract Whitey from the fact that his brown brethren are making a better fist of preventing these unwanted sales from going ahead.

An interesting take on things there JD, quite possibly true! I'm all for making good on things we did not do properly the first time.
I've about had enough of this govt's total denial of NZ'ers voices being heard when it comes to what we want as a country, (smacking bill, for instance) a referendum and like their red brothers before them, they ignored it!) But the thought that our brown brothers are in fact fighting for us all when it comes to asset sales is one that I'd never have considered until you pointed it out.
I have one problem with this though.
If we assumed that this is in fact their objective and if they succeed, how much is it going to cost every OTHER ( you know,non brown invader) NZ'er to live here, what with having to support all of them in they way to which they are quickly becoming used to.

[Reckless]

If they get the wind ( air, environment) does it mean they pay the carbon tax???

[James Deuce]

It will cost nothing. They aren't asking for money, just guaranteed access to water and wind for all Maori, all the time. Who happen to be Kiwis too.

If the Government really wanted to stimulate economic growth with partial asset sales, they would privatise these assets entirely and make all Kiwis shareholders in the remaining 51%, giving us access to the dividends these businesses will produce as well as a personal interest in them succeeding, and give us individual and collective access to the overseas minority shareholders to keep on top of the development of these assets. The shares would be similar to Fonterra shares in that you can't trade them unless you opt out of the "business", i.e. emigrate, and they woul dbe traded to other Kiwi citizens.

[MisterD]

They aren't asking for money...

Hahahahahahah

[Reckless]

It will cost nothing. They aren't asking for money, just guaranteed access to water and wind for all Maori, all the time. Who happen to be Kiwis too.

If the Government really wanted to stimulate economic growth with partial asset sales, they would privatise these assets entirely and make all Kiwis shareholders in the remaining 51%, giving us access to the dividends these businesses will produce as well as a personal interest in them succeeding, and give us individual and collective access to the overseas minority shareholders to keep on top of the development of these assets. The shares would be similar to Fonterra shares in that you can't trade them unless you opt out of the "business", i.e. emigrate, and they woul dbe traded to other Kiwi citizens.

As long as it will really works that way I agree to be fair!!
I dont think we should be selling off our bread and butter assets either personally.

[imdying]

Who happen to be Kiwis too.

No. No they are not. They are Maoris. That's the box they tick when relevant. When they stop ticking that and start ticking New Zealender like the rest of us, then they're our brothers. Until then they're racist separatists.

[BoristheBiter]

It will cost nothing. They aren't asking for money, just guaranteed access to water and wind for all Maori, all the time. Who happen to be Kiwis too.

If the Government really wanted to stimulate economic growth with partial asset sales, they would privatise these assets entirely and make all Kiwis shareholders in the remaining 51%, giving us access to the dividends these businesses will produce as well as a personal interest in them succeeding, and give us individual and collective access to the overseas minority shareholders to keep on top of the development of these assets. The shares would be similar to Fonterra shares in that you can't trade them unless you opt out of the "business", i.e. emigrate, and they woul dbe traded to other Kiwi citizens.

FFS, do you write for Tui as a day job?

[Murray]

It will end when Winston is Prime Minister

[Kendog]

They aren't asking for money, just guaranteed access to water and wind for all Maori, all the time.

I want to believe you, but this is what the news article says:

"A Ngapuhi sub-tribe is making a Waitangi Tribunal claim for Maori to earn a dividend for the use of wind for commercial electricity generation."

[James Deuce]

Yes, I know. As we should all know though, what is printed in the media is simply tosh. The details of the allegedly requested dividend haven't been made public and the things I've heard Dr Pita Sharples say about this process are markedly different to what gets reported. Question everything, not just that which is comfortable for each of us to question.