Originally Posted by
CHOPPA
The race was red flagged you supposed to return to the dummy grid. I had also been passed the chequered so I was supposed to use the slip road. So you were going to put a green flag out on a track that is under red flag? Should I assume the track is now back to race condition and im not allowed to cross the track? Maybe I should have carried on around the track and back to the dummy grid like the other riders but I had just been warned not to do that?
Do I trust the kids on the flag point? At one point they were holding up a green flag above there head as they moved around in the marshal point when there were bikes coming...
Why do you use a slip road that dramatically increases the risk of fatal injuries. You will get a flag marshal to stand in the middle of a track with bikes coming flat out toward them, you are having bikes cross a track for no reason. Let us complete the lap and ride into the pits. No reason the next class cant get let out once the last rider is at the hairpin which would see races turned over even quicker. Slip road seems like a stupid idea to me
Not quite sure what you mean but I will have a go, and this is in no way the words of VMCC, just me.
If a rider takes to the slip-road for whatever reason, that rider has been educated many times at riders briefing and other times, to remain there until the race is completed and a green flag is shown from start-finish. I can't see how this is ambiguous, unless a rider wants to make it ambiguous for their own reasons.
Clearly if a race is red-flagged or chequered flagged, the race is over. There is no more race. The track is effectively closed at that point. Return to pit-lane or to the slip-road it amounts to the same thing. When the way is clear for those riders in the slip-road they will be admitted across. I see no ambiguity there at all. No riders will still be racing, and a green flag waved at start-finish is not going to release riders in the pit-lane, they are released by the grid marshalls. The point you raise is a bit of a red-herring Chop, and a bit scurrilous I must say.
No comment on the second assertion, wasn't there, didn't see it.
Third point: I for one totally agree with you. I have believed for many years that using that slip-road simply introduces a level of complexity and danger that is unwarranted. The reason for using it is time saving and that is all. In the past we have run without using the slip-road, currently the organisers choose to use it. There are severe time constraints on the day and no matter how many times organisers tell riders to be there on time and to not dawdle around the warm-up or warm-down laps, riders are like sheep, sometimes with the intellect of said ovine earth co-habitants and there are always those that decide after 10 minutes of effort that they are so buggered they need to crawl home. Or perhaps they simply don't give a shit about anyone else but themselves.
Fourth point however, is not correct. The next race cannot be admitted onto the circuit until all of the previous bikes are off the track, for safety reasons. It is not unheard of for a rider to crash on the warm-down lap (see above). Riders on their warm-up lap are going fast, or they should be. So they should expect that the track ahead of them is clear, therefore all bikes need to be off the track. And there also needs to be time for the marshalls to have a scan of their part of the track and retrieve bits and pieces from bikes or whatever, that may have gotten onto the track.
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