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    Quote Originally Posted by mossy1200 View Post
    Edit- Anyone siting on a start grid ready to react to the lights wont take 1.5secs to leave the line when lights go out. Why? Because they are ready to react.
    Supposed to be about .3 of a sec in that situation innit?

    EDIT: No-one road rides in that state all the time, every time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by koba View Post
    Supposed to be about .3 of a sec in that situation innit?

    EDIT: No-one road rides in that state all the time, every time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hotkebab View Post
    Everybody reacts different when they see danger.
    Yeah, but in this example the rider did not see any danger until the truck pulled out in front of him and by then it is far too late.

    It is one thing having a video mounted on your bike/person while out for a fang. It is quite another to be recording some kind of political commentary about people shoplifting steak. What the fuck was all that about? His mind was clearly not on riding regardless of what the little text boxes said.

    Could I have avoided it? Who knows. I imagine I would have scrubbed off a lot more speed than he did faced with a truck that was going to turn right and the possibility of some idiot pulling out to overtake him but my main threat would have been the red truck and what to do if he pulled out. The closer you get the more of your escape route gets blocked until you are pretty much out of options. If your mind is on steak and not the fuck off big truck about to wipe you out then your options are going to run out that much sooner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by koba View Post
    Supposed to be about .3 of a sec in that situation innit?

    EDIT: No-one road rides in that state all the time, every time.
    Seeing 2 trucks at a t intersection on the open road my butt is clenched and im in reaction state.
    90% of the time im riding 2 up with the wife on the back. I owe it to her and myself to slow down and get ready if it even smells like another road user could effect an outcome during my ride.
    I have evolved as a KB member.Now nothing I say should be taken seriously.

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    As a truck and tour coach driver I am often "flashed" out of side roads or when wishing to change lanes in heavy traffic or whatever, usually with no other signal, and I also often flash people the same way and only once has the flashed headlights not meant "I'm letting you go ahead of me.

    I would always interpret the flash as an indication that someone was giving way to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macontour View Post
    I would always interpret the flash as an indication that someone was giving way to me.
    And if a motorcyclist was coming towards you with no traffic in front of them at a decent speed and simply put their light on full beam rather than flashing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    Hey, I'm not the only one who thinks he probably could have done a better job.

    In fact, you and Bigal are just about the only ones in this thread too lazy to consider how the situation could have turned out differently.
    You are such a cock. you make any old shit up, how do you know what I have considered?

    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    I bet as a kid when you used to play soldiers with your mates you were to first to always lie down and play dead.
    Did you have to have to go away and think of something witty to write down did you?

    You still haven't answered the question or is it the fact you would have no fucking idea as you spend most of your time on here being the keyboard warrior you are so well known for, unlike the rest of us that get out and ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew View Post
    I'm the biker god...Cunt.
    Well we know that but pussyman seems he wants a shot at your title.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodman View Post
    The guy never shut up the whole time, even when those little popups stated that he had seen the hazard well before the collision. If i was yakking on a ride (which wouldn't happen) I would have gone all quiet when I first saw the trucks.

    Just wondering whether he paid as much attention to the trucks as he leads us to believe?
    Agreed..as I said in an earlier post...

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    The truck driver needs shot with a ball of his own shit - he had ONE lane to worry about and he couldn't even manage that!

    And the rider was a tad blase' as earlier on with the side road etc I would not have been going quite as quick - and on seeing the trucks the alarm bells would have been screaming, I would had been hard on the anchors as I approached them.

    Rider put too much 'trust' in everybody else doing as he wanted/expected.
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    Great Video!!!

    It was unlucky that the ShitForBrains driving the truck attepted murder.

    I can't say for certainty that I could have avoided this.

    BUT , I may have avoided this for FOUR reasons:

    1. Since the age of 16, I have managed to get in the habit of a precautionary 'Parp Parp' for such, and many other situations.
    2. Since the age of 16, I have managed to get in the habit of - No eye contact with the stationary vehicle attempting murder, prepare to stop!
    3. I would have slowed more than the rider did on this straight road with the very clearly visible hazard.
    4. I have ABS brakes and from considerable experience of their incredible capabilities AND with being at a lower speed.........

    Most motorcycling accidents in dry conditions are avoidable.

    Hope the injuries were not too severe and that this has been a life saving lesson and a valuable experience for the future.

    Good luck and ride safely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    That possible escape scenario should have entered his head the moment he saw the trucks - well before the black one moved.

    Once the idea is already there, executing it becomes relatively simple.
    Well come on then. You're quick with red today but not with an answer to the question?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    Especially if the headlight is on already.
    So I want to know from you is you think every crash avoidable?

    And so you think all those do crash are to blame as they should have been riding better?

    Yes or no?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoristheBiter View Post
    So come on then dick what would the mighty Katman have done in this situation?
    I'd have had my headlight on for a start.

    Then I'd have shut the fuck up as soon as I saw the trucks at the intersection and started considering possible situation outcomes.

    I'd have also slowed considerably further than this rider did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoristheBiter View Post
    So I want to know from you is you think every crash avoidable?

    And so you think all those do crash are to blame as they should have been riding better?

    Yes or no?
    I have never said every crash is avoidable. (Certainly the vast majority of them are though).

    But every crash should be examined to see how better management could have changed the outcome.

    You're clearly still too caught up with the idea of 'blame' rather than considering how different actions can influence outcome.

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