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  1. #196
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    As far as potential hazards go that situation is dripping with them.

    The two trucks block off almost all the escape routes and it doesn't appear particularly well lit in amongst the trees.

    I'd have been doing whatever it takes to ensure the truck driver spotted me.

    It also didn't appear that the motorcyclist slowed down noticeably.
    Yeah .. despite his claim to be slowing down it certainly doesn't look like he was ... Maybe if he had slowed down some more it was avoidable ...

    But from the speed he was doing and position on the road when the black truck moved - I doubt I would avoid it ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by haydes55 View Post
    That rider is an idiot!
    1) He rode through what looks like bollards designed to stop traffic, so I honestly don't blame the driver for not looking for vehicles that direction.
    2) You don't ride that fast through urban areas unless you want to kill children, crash or give bikers a worse rep. I saw the speedo reading 69 before the camera view goes too high, presuming that's km/h and the limit will most likely be 50km/h or possibly 30km/h.
    Yes - exactly ... being a dumb fucker at speed ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Banditbandit View Post
    Yes - exactly ... being a dumb fucker at speed ...
    I think you'll find that's MPH and not KPH

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hotkebab View Post
    How many of you guys could of avoided this? (this rider really did face plant)
    At that speed? - not me.

    But I would not have been riding at that speed in that manner in that set of conditions...
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    I think the driver did a good job of not avoiding him. Seemed to line him up perfectly even though he only had a Lada to do it with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scumdog View Post
    At that speed? - not me.

    But I would not have been riding at that speed in that manner in that set of conditions...
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    Not riding like it's your last day probably wouldn't help as well...
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    Do you think this could have benen avoided

    [youtube]ZMTZNggZQsI[/youtube]

    Out for a group ride. I had never met the guy who was riding the ZX-10 before. As I was slowing down he was still going fast and said he never saw the trailer. The gopro camera is mounted to the front of my Ducati 848 Evo. He survived the crash with only a broken arm and broken leg however he was airlifted to the hospital.

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    Quote Originally Posted by breakaway View Post
    Do you think this could have benen avoided
    Yes, since it's fake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    I'd have had my headlight on for a start.
    UK bikes have had headlamps hard-wired with the ignition since 2002/2003 - so it would have been on.

    But even then, dipped beam is supposed to shine down on the road surface, with a cut-off to avoid low going higher - and the trucker's eye-line would have been about 3m above road height!

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    Quote Originally Posted by breakaway View Post
    Do you think this could have benen avoided

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    I didn't even spot the rider tumbling through the air till the slow motion at the end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YellowDog View Post
    I think you'll find that's MPH and not KPH
    Deosn't matter - he (or she) was coming through obstacles blocking tt he road and accelerating towards an intersection where other road users would not expecting to see someone coming at them at speed ... whether it is measured in kph or mph ... Dumb Dumb Dumb ...
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    The Lada driver couldn't have been at fault... he was wearing a hi-vis vest! The biker appeared to me to be going way too fast through the bollards.
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    You could see the black truck moving over the white line at 0:27 already. The rider should have been covering his brakes when any other vehicles are present- for exacclty that reason. I might not have avoided hitting the truck, but would have slowed down a hell of a lot more. Also, when he did recognise that the truck started moving - that did not seem like emergency braking - he should have been able to stop a lot faster than that.
    It looked like he was doing about 90-100kmh? When he hit the truck, he was still doing about 60kph.

    Its tough in that situation - I was in the same one a couple of weeks back- you have to choose between braking or swerving, but you cant swerve until you have braked enough, and you are not sure that you will be able to brake enough. So do you swerve and lay the bike into the corner, holding on and hoping for the best, or do you brake hard as you can and as long as you can, bleeding off as much speed as possible, and take the risk of hitting the truck? I think the option of being hit, but at low speed, is probably safer than taking a corner too hot and sliding out into the other truck.. its a fine choice though...
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    Quote Originally Posted by R-Soul View Post
    It looked like he was doing about 90-100kmh? When he hit the truck, he was still doing about 60kph.
    Ever hit a solid object at 50kph?

    That bike was doing 20 MAX, if it was at all real, which I doubt. The camera shows tha bike didn't even break a head light.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pzkpfw View Post
    As for the truck driver, I'd expect he looked down the road, saw nothing
    Ooops, and why is this exactly?

    Bike with no (or poor) headllight hidden in the shadows between the tall trees perhaps? Get a brighter headlight. Put the fucker on fullbeam except when it's not appropriate.

    Slow down in closing or convoluted environments where there is traffic crossing. Pay exceedingly careful attention to any hint of movement from any vehicle that CAN cross your lane (not MIGHT).
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